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re: 3 Body Problem - Netflix

Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:50 am to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:50 am to
I don't think you're going to find many people that are saying she's the biggest problem because of her looks. Of course she's really hot. That's the only thing that makes her bearable. Her character sucks, not her looks. She doesn't come off in any way as a top scientist/brilliant mind. Hell she barely talks any science the entire show and just bosses people around.

*Guy comes downstairs holding a helmet*

Boss bitch who doesn't know anything at all about the helmet: WHAT IS THAT??? ARE YOU PLAYING THAT??? PROMISE ME RIGHT NOW YOU WILL NEVER PLAY THAT!!!!

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/23/24 at 8:53 am to
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I didn’t like the focus on pure “entertainment”, which to me was just rushing through the story to keep viewers interested.


Adding in murder for not playing the game was an odd choice. Not sure why they threw that in.

"We are going to murder people for really no reason, but you are no longer trustworthy because.... you lie. Because lying is definitely worse than murder."
Posted by TigerinATL
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Posted on 4/30/24 at 8:47 am to
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It's a running theme with film adaptation of books. Every director is terrified of doing a proper job. They instinctively are moved to change things here and there, to put their own spin on a story. And that's in the best scenario. Worse, we get those who don't respect or even hate the source...

The best book readers can hope for is the overall theme of the story is kept even if some things are added or altered.


I just finished the Chinese adaptation, free on Prime, which reportedly is pretty close to the book (I haven't read it). There were some pretty significant changes made to the Netflix series, but I don't hate most of them if your goal is to make this a main stream show for Western audiences.

The biggest difference was time and the friend group of main characters. The Chinese version was 30 episodes and I believe it just covered book 1. The Netflix version was 8 episodes and it jumped ahead to use information from other books. I don't feel like the Chinese version had filler, but they focused on things that made it a lot more SciFi genre and not aimed at the main stream.

The friend group of main characters is nothing like the Chinese version. But I don't hate the choice for Western audiences, especially if you only have 8 episodes to tell the story vs. 30. The Chinese version brought a bunch of strangers together but they did form relationships as they went along because they had time to.

A few other key differences:

The handling of the Judgement Day in the Panama Canal. In the Netflix version they made the betrayers of humanity seem innocent and sympathetic and made using lethal force on them a moral dilemma. In the Chinese version they went out of their way to dirty them up even more. They weren't just betrayers of humanity that hated humans, they also worked with despicable, blood thirsty Western mercenaries. I'm not saying killing them wasn't a big deal, it did seem to impact the scientist behind the nano fiber some, but it wasn't like the Netflix version. In the Chinese version the nano fiber killing every single person on board silently and quickly before they could sound the alarm and destroy the data was what made it a good plan.

Wall facer, space brain, I guess they're coming in future seasons, but they weren't in the first season of the Chinese version.

Look and Feel. The Netflix version felt like an extended movie, the Chinese version felt like a KDrama. I don't see that as an insult to the Chinese version at all, it just wasn't as slick and shiny, focuses more on story and character development, and there are subtitles.

For those wondering which to watch, I've actually liked both. If you like scifi and can handle subtitles, I'd give the Chinese version a shot, even if you've already seen the Netflix version.
This post was edited on 4/30/24 at 8:48 am
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 11:28 am to
Just finished and I have questions.

Why was Saul chosen, and once he declined, why is he being treated as if he did not?


How do the headsets appear and where do they originate?


Just a comment on the concept(s)...if they can pull off a plan now, then they could surely pull that same plan off in the future if they had to. Why spend resources now on such a plan instead of a slower build to better, more advanced tech that will surely come within the 400 year time frame?
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:08 pm to
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Just a comment on the concept(s).

Presumably the same reason the aliens decided to randomly break their silence and explain their master plan to the two most important people that could do something about it instead of just keeping quiet and let everyone forget about it for 400 years…it makes for better tv
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 12:14 pm to
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Why was Saul chosen, and once he declined, why is he being treated as if he did not?


It’s not explicitly explained yet, but you have the clues in this season.

The Wallfacer project’s goal is to come up with plans the Trisolarans couldn’t figure out. They treat him like that because they think his public decline of the job was part of his plan to trick the aliens.
Posted by AMS
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Posted on 5/13/24 at 4:16 pm to
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Just a comment on the concept(s)...if they can pull off a plan now, then they could surely pull that same plan off in the future if they had to. Why spend resources now on such a plan instead of a slower build to better, more advanced tech that will surely come within the 400 year time frame?



why not just wait for tech to be advanced? shite im sure someone will figure it out in the future, lets just put it off for 350 years and let them sort it out.

strides in research are being made while doing these plans. they figured out how to get an object to travel at 1% light speed to do the head in space... thats a big step. its the same top speed of the trisolaris fleet.
they are trying to enact plans that will be a scaffold for the advanced tech of the future.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:20 pm to
"ever since we read the last page"
- Subtle dig on GRRM
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 3:28 pm to
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Renewed for season 2



"we’d be able to bring the audience to the end of the universe with us. Here we go!”

Isn't this supposed to be three installments? Does this mean a complete renewal to the end?
Posted by Boodis Man
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 5:18 pm to
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Renewed for season 2



a pleasant surprise. looking forward to it
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:03 pm to
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Isn't this supposed to be three installments? Does this mean a complete renewal to the end?


Netflix confirmed today that the show will have two more seasons to finish the story.
Posted by joshnorris14
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 8:46 am to
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The handling of the Judgement Day in the Panama Canal. In the Netflix version they made the betrayers of humanity seem innocent and sympathetic and made using lethal force on them a moral dilemma.


In the books, there were two primary camps in the "Earth-Trisolerian Organization" (Slightly different name for the aliens). 1 group (Ye's group) wanted the aliens to come and save humanity, the other group wanted (Mike Evan's group) the aliens to exterminate the human species (They used the Human's ability to deceive as the reason the alien's needed this group in their extermination effort, exactly opposite of what is portrayed in the show).

Going into Judgement Day, this makes it considerably less problematic for the engineer behind the nano-weapon as Mike Evan's exterminators were on board the ship, the only concern for casualties was the 1 Panamanian ship navigator that would be on board through the Panama Canal
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
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Posted on 6/1/24 at 9:40 pm to
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bing watching
Shitty search engine.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 11:51 am to
Bumping this thread since I just finished watching the first season.

Firstly, I liked the show well enough. But holy shite does it have issues. Very little about it makes sense. And it's also very poorly acted at times (I have read the thread and was glad everyone hated Auggie as much as I did).

the whole photon thing made very little sense to me. Same with a LOT of the actions of the characters as well.

I don't fully understand the VR game aspect of the show. So is that just a game, or is it an actual glimpse into the Trisolarans and their situation on their planet(s?)? I couldn't tell if they were allowing certain people to play the game in hopes that they would figure out the 3BP solution and create stableness in their home world, or if it was just sort of a recruiting tool that they used to see which humans were cool and down for the cause or whatever.

The nukes-in-space propulsion thing was entirely laughably hilarious. It didn't bother me because I am watching a fictional sci-fi television series. But man, just the logistics alone of that would take decades or longer) and yet it was done in about two days.

Benedict Wong is good. And so is my boy Sir Davos.

I feel like they attempt to make us feel sorry for and understand Ye and why she did what she did. But frick that and frick her for quite possibly literally dooming humanity to its end.

None of the scientists in the movie feel like actual scientists at all. It's like they just filled the cast with a bunch of hipster kids and we're supposed to accept that they are all super advanced in their respective fields and some of the top minds. It didn't bother me that the cast was diverse, but just make it believable. The most believable one for me was probably Jin, followed by Will. The rest were pretty bad (and that plays into some of the acting grips I had above as well).

The story felt all over the place and VERY disjointed. But after reading this thread I see that that is likely because they were pulling from all three books at once. Which why the frick would they do that? That doesn't make much sense.

But all in all, I did enjoy it since I'm sort of a sucker for this genre. And seeing as how this thread is more than a year and a half old, I have hopes that the second season is coming out soon (although I suspect it won't, because Netflix).
Posted by ScottFowler
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:51 pm to
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And seeing as how this thread is more than a year and a half old, I have hopes that the second season is coming out soon (although I suspect it won't, because Netflix).


I am thinking that Netflix has gotten enough interest in this show that it will see the show to it's conclusion.

Here is to hoping that Dave&Dave have learned from everything, and will go back to what they are good at. Bringing faithful translations from page to screen.

Then again, they may just be hacks....
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 7:21 pm to
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explain their master plan to the two most important people that could do something about it instead of just keeping quiet and let everyone forget about it for 400 years…it makes for better tv


The answer is the sophons. They locked humanity at their current level. 400 or 4000 years is nothing if you can only make lateral advancement in understanding and technology.


The 2nd book goes deep into this concept that the next season hopefully puts focus on. (Eg. going from the flintlock rifles to the Apollo rockets, while indeed are advancing technology, is essentially nothing as the concepts are things one can workout with time and math. It’s lateral advancement, Not true advancement in understanding of the fabric of reality.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 7:28 pm
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