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re: Yankees had a call in 1st inning as frustrating as catcher interference call.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:30 am to Choupique19
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:30 am to Choupique19
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Umpires flat out refuse to use comon sense. They hide benind "the letter of the law" in the rule book without using the proper context. The batter was out. No advantage was gained by either team. End of story. No need for the umpire to show the world how smart he is and how much he understands the rule book. We don't care about the umpire's arrogance, we just want fair play.
Sounds good in theory, but on the whole I think we would rather the umps follow the “letter of the law” rather than determine what they think is “fair play” on the fly. Sure following the letter of the law might create some seemingly “unfair” outcomes from time to time, but giving umps more discretion to ignore the letter of the law because they think it creates an unfair outcome on.a case by case basis would likely be exponentially more disastrous.
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 8:31 am
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Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:37 am to MJSTIGER
Normally I would agree with Boone, but since the SS was moving backwards with no ability to see the runner tagging up, it only takes a second to avoid the collision.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:46 am to moneyg
quote:100% incorrect if you are on the bag. Soto is on the bay before contact
I didn't see the play, but it's the duty of the runner to evade the fielder.
His foot hits the bag and then the fielder makes contact
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/30/24 at 8:57 am to Jon Ham
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Instead of getting right back to the bag and out of the way, Soto does a half arse walk-jog and then at the last second sticks his leg behind the fielder, bodying him and tripping him. Good call.
This is why this whole thing happened. Soto acting like the massive douche he is.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:15 am to grizzlylongcut
I am all for reconsidering interference when the infield fly rule is in effect, but unlike last week’s call in the Orioles White Sox game where SS was still able to make the catch with ease, I have no problem with interference being called here.
Soto was being a dumbass and tripped the fielder during the catch attempt, b/c Soto casually walked back to the bag and made a last second lunging jab step to the bag. It almost looked intentional. The slightest bit of urgency by Soto and that doesn’t happen.
Soto was being a dumbass and tripped the fielder during the catch attempt, b/c Soto casually walked back to the bag and made a last second lunging jab step to the bag. It almost looked intentional. The slightest bit of urgency by Soto and that doesn’t happen.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:19 am to grizzlylongcut
What was he supposed to do? He couldn't go to the front of the bag because the fielder was there. The fielder then blocks the middle of the bag as the runner is trying to go around him. He then says frick it, I'm out anyways if the fielder catches the ball while standing on base, and just sticks his leg out to touch the base. Because you know what happens if the runner isn't on base or gets tagged during an infield fly right? The runner is out and the batter is out. THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THE INFIELD FLY RULE IS TO PREVENT THIS DUMBASSERY FROM HAPPENING!
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:55 am to MJSTIGER
Worst part is something similar happened in a White Sox game and MLB ruled the umpire crew got it wrong.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 11:57 am to MJSTIGER
Clearly not on bag as catch is being made. Correct call. If Soto would have paid attention and been faster to the bag it would have been ok.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:18 pm to Hurricane2020
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What was he supposed to do?
Return to the bag with some urgency. As you correctly noted, Soto is out if he is off the bag and gets tagged after the catch is made. So, getting back to the bag somewhat quickly is in his best interest. He put himself in the position of needing to make a last moment lung to the bag, because he got there about the same time as the ball. If Soto doesn’t slow walk his way back to the bag, he gets there in plenty of time to touch the base while also avoiding the fielder or at least clearly before any contact.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:26 pm to ptra
Neato literally backed into him, Soto went around him as Neato was in the basebath then started to back up. Soto really had no option here because had he waited for the catch he could have been tagged out. Was a BS call really where Soto had no real options to get back to the base
This post was edited on 5/30/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:27 pm to ptra
Is this shite not as simple as just considering contact as making it a dead ball? Infield fly out still happens, and no one can advance in the case the contact caused a play where the runners could actually do so. Instead you're awarding a double play on a fly ball that didn't even need to be caught.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 12:54 pm to LSBoosie
The Orioles one was way worse than this. That one ended the game and the fielder actually caught the ball. He just had to walk around the runner for a step.
MLB came out and said the fricked up.
MLB came out and said the fricked up.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:50 pm to Speedy G
You're not wrong, but have you ever seen runners making a mad dash to their pre pitch plate on a called infield fly? It's standard procedure to slowly meander back to your plate. You just never see an infield fly land directly on the advancing side of a plate.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 2:52 pm to double d
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Well if catches the ball and a runner is off the base and gets tagged out might be one reason.
that's the entire point of the infield fly rule
Posted on 5/30/24 at 3:04 pm to kciDAtaE
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The Orioles one was way worse than this. That one ended the game and the fielder actually caught the ball
didn't just catch the ball, but took about 382 more steps after the "interference", then camped under ball until next afternoon, then made the catch.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 3:05 pm to Eternalmajin
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Infield fly out still happens, and no one can advance in the case the contact caused a play where the runners could actually do so. Instead you're awarding a double play on a fly ball that didn't even need to be caught.
no, it doesn't have to be caught, but you do need to keep the ball close enough to make a play, because the runners can advance at their own risk.
so if you boot it and it gets far enough away, a runner can take next base.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 4:18 pm to MJSTIGER
That’s clearly the right call
Posted on 5/30/24 at 4:54 pm to Hurricane2020
He doesn’t need to make a mad dash or even hustle. But the ball is gonna come down somewhere around second base and if Soto is not on the bag when it does, there is a good chance he’s getting doubled off. He should be trying to get back to safety with time to spare.
I honestly think Soto was trying to be cute and time up his return to frick with the fielder and got burned; not maliciously but clownishly. That’s pretty on brand for him and baseball in general.
The call on the White Sox was absurd. But Soto literally took out a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball, which is textbook interference. If Soto is the only base runner, nobody even questions this call.
I honestly think Soto was trying to be cute and time up his return to frick with the fielder and got burned; not maliciously but clownishly. That’s pretty on brand for him and baseball in general.
The call on the White Sox was absurd. But Soto literally took out a fielder in the act of fielding a batted ball, which is textbook interference. If Soto is the only base runner, nobody even questions this call.
Posted on 5/30/24 at 5:54 pm to Jon Ham
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Soto saw where the fielder was going and stepped in the fielder’s way at the last second
It looked to me like Soto went around the back of the fielder in an attempt to avoid him and he jumped backwards into Soto because he misjudged where the ball was coming down at.
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