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re: Yahoo: Coaches on the hot seat

Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:23 pm to
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Also, why would Congress get involved?

Those buyouts aren't being paid with taxpayer money. As with most things, the market will take care of this problem by itself.


I would guess it's coming up while senators are being asked to impose a salary cap on NIL because of an "endless arms race" that colleges "can't afford".

And, being told that "the market" will just mean a few billionaires willing to dump personal fortunes into their toy teams and diminish widespread fan interest.

Posted by boston vol
Lexington-Fayette, KY
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:24 pm to
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Fran Brown at Syracuse is close to being on the hot seat.

If not for Kyle McCord in year 1, he’d probably already be on it.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163404 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:27 pm to
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As with most things, the market will take care of this problem by itself.


I thought it would but it really hasn't yet.

The bloated salaries really don't bother me that much. If a school wants to pay a coach $10-12 million a year, whatever. It's the length of these deals and how ridiculously one-sided they are that schools have to quit tying themselves to.

If the coach wins, he's probably coming back in 2-3 years looking for a raise and an extension anyway. If another job comes along that he wants, he can pretty much leave whenever he wants. But if things go south, the school is stuck staring at some massive buyout because they guaranteed him 8-10 years.

The school basically takes on all the risk while getting very little leverage in return.

I'd much rather pay a guy $12 million a year for 4-5 years than $9 million a year for 10. You're probably renegotiating the deal if he wins big regardless, so what exactly are you gaining by guaranteeing all those extra years?

The salaries aren't what's killing schools. It's the years, guarantees and buyouts that make these contracts so stupid.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:28 pm to
the bill did not address any kind of NIL cap to my knowledge
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9832 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:38 pm to
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the bill did not address any kind of NIL cap to my knowledge


You're right.

The cap was on program to player payments . But, the bill also tries to crack down on using NIL as pay for play instead of actual market value of an endorsement -- which would severely limit it in theory if not practice.


Still, the logic is the same about congress being told programs can't keep up with the spending increases and also being asked to put limits on billionaires throwing personal fortunes at their toy teams through NIL.

I can simply see how that leads to the question of coaching buyouts.


This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 3:42 pm
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163404 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 3:48 pm to
wasn't there supposed to be a clearinghouse for NIL deals this past year to make sure most deals fit into an agreed upon valuation? I can't say I heard of any deals they flagged but could be wrong.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9832 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 4:00 pm to
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wasn't there supposed to be a clearinghouse for NIL deals this past year to make sure most deals fit into an agreed upon valuation? I can't say I heard of any deals they flagged but could be wrong.


I heard about it but don't know. That it seemed to make no difference may be why it's a feature of the bill.


Added: NIL is so difficult because it is simply pay for play with endless gymnastics to keep from calling it that.


This post was edited on 9/30/26 at 4:10 pm
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 9/30/26 at 4:03 pm to
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Venables


Oklahoma head football coach Brent Venables signed a six-year, $63 million contract extension through January 2032, averaging $10.5 million annually

we dont even know his buyout but it was $34.9 million to $44.8 million before the extension
Posted by CobraCommander83
Member since Feb 2017
12666 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 4:12 pm to
Beamer would have to pull off a miracle to keep his job. 8 wins may keep him another year but there is no way Carolina is getting 8. Be lucky to get 4.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163404 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 4:20 pm to
another example of a self inflicted wound by the school

6-7

10-3

6-7

10-3

and might be back to 6-7 this year....but hey got us to the first round of the playoffs, better re up that deal ASAP!
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163404 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 4:21 pm to
Beamer should have been fired with cause for that A&M debacle
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15489 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 4:26 pm to
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Shane Beamer, South Carolina Buyout: $22-24 million


how did he get this buy out,

And i noticed Saban had nothing to say about coaches salaries, coaches bolting, and the asinine buyouts.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
88503 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 5:03 pm to
It's mind boggling
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
12635 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 8:30 pm to
OU could probably swing that buyout but it would be painful. I didn’t see this terrible start to the 2026 coming. Mateer has been a total bust
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
3209 posts
Posted on 9/30/26 at 9:47 pm to
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What is the deal with all these ridiculous buyouts


Its the "Saban affect" or probably more importantly the Jimmy Sexton affect. This precedent was set when Mark Emmerett hired Saban. Saban's success has shown what a great coach can do for your athletic department and your school overall. Go find the articles about AL enrollment numbers, donations, value of brand, etc prior to Saban compared to now.

Fan bases and boosters are desperate to make their once proud programs relevant again and will do anything to hire that "can't miss coach." Now you have escalation of guaranteed salaries because the "hot" coaches essentially have all the leverage in a negotiation and they are all handled by a handful of agents.
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