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re: WSU track and field eliminating all field events, limiting sprints and hurdles in future
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:08 pm to ragincajun03
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:08 pm to ragincajun03
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Meanwhile, the kid for whom being a long jumper on scholarship was his only chance at a college degree without a shite ton of debt is now also SOL.
D1 track teams have 12 men's scholarship and 18 women for rosters of 40 in both genders
Lot of people were already taking out debt or parents floating to play non-rev sports
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Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:12 pm to Dire Wolf
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College sports were once the great American communist experiment
One huge difference. Participation is voluntary. Everyone knew what you got, what you didn't get, and they all signed up.
Some people pay more taxes than others, yet they both get access to the same public amenities. I don't think football money paying for other kids' opportunities is some crime against the football players.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:14 pm to ChanceOfRainIsNever
I thought it was to take a girl out for pizza.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:28 pm to Cliff Booth
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One huge difference. Participation is voluntary
for every sport but football
Football is the only sport that effectively requires players to go to college to become a pro.
Track you can go run overseas
basketball same
Baseball can go straight to the minors
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:36 pm to Dire Wolf
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Football is the only sport that effectively requires players to go to college to become a pro.
Sounds like a class action lawsuit should be taken to the NFL then. This shouldn't be a problem for the universities or NCAA to have to consider.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:39 pm to Dire Wolf
Last fall I was glancing at the summary of football games for a given weekend (and week). Not just D-1 but the other divisions.
Goodness gracious: that's a lot of QBs and back up QBs and then figure the 50+ other team mates, then add the support staff. I would guess that at most 50% might get some post college attention doing something related to football, but not well paying.
The economics aren't there to spread money (which doesn't exist) to players who don't need to play football to advance in life.
Goodness gracious: that's a lot of QBs and back up QBs and then figure the 50+ other team mates, then add the support staff. I would guess that at most 50% might get some post college attention doing something related to football, but not well paying.
The economics aren't there to spread money (which doesn't exist) to players who don't need to play football to advance in life.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 3:50 pm to tiggerthetooth
It's not just an issue of "making " money. consider the size of both men & women's track teams, Factor in their travels, across the country to all the major meets. Note they do not have regular, at home weekend meets like all the other sports. They travel for most / a lot of their meets. Kansas, Oregon, New Jersey, etc etc. Track, male & female lose their butts off.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:10 pm to Keltic Tiger
Yea track is relatively expensive to upkeep as a total sum. Per athlete I imagine it’s on the cheaper end compared to others but as a whole i imagine it’s expensive af.
Keeping the distance events allows the school to still keep a competitive cross country program. If they got rid of track as a whole you might as well axe xc too because there’s nobody worth anything sticking around just to run xc.
Keeping the distance events allows the school to still keep a competitive cross country program. If they got rid of track as a whole you might as well axe xc too because there’s nobody worth anything sticking around just to run xc.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:11 pm to Dire Wolf
You don’t have to go oversees for track. There’s been several stay here and skip college competition.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:13 pm to Dire Wolf
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for every sport but football
Football is the only sport that effectively requires players to go to college to become a pro.
Sure, but that's the NFL's fault. Maybe they should be paying some off that 20.5 million.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:13 pm to Dire Wolf
quote:yea our team had maybe 2/3 guys on full another 5/6 on 50-70 percent. Then the rest divided up however. I got like 10% I think 2.5 years of my time competing. Was a walk on the rest.
D1 track teams have 12 men's scholarship and 18 women for rosters of 40 in both genders Lot of people were already taking out debt or parents floating to play non-rev sports
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:13 pm to MUMFORD
There are restrictions on number of roster spots you can have for track and CC.....and other minor sports I assume that are about to go in to effect. The NCAA restrictions are tough but the SEC has decided to restrict rosters spots even more severely. CC can only have 10 on the roster. That means no one else can be coached or use university facilities if they aren't on the roster. Maybe someone can chime in but it may be just for Mens sports, I'm not sure. But 10 roster spots for CC us tough. We had probably 25 guys running with us when I ran for LSU some of who were never going to where an LSU singlet. But we had 12-15 guys fighting for travel squad spots which was about 10 spots. And during the season 3 or 4 of those top 10 guys were injured or sick. So with just 10 roster spots, a team may go to conference meets with a very depleted team.
This post was edited on 6/17/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:18 pm to MUMFORD
I really do feel sorry for the Cougars and Beavers, they got absolutely screwed in realignment.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:19 pm to MUMFORD
And millions of idiot fans supported NIL lol.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:36 pm to MUMFORD
WSU track was the national runner up 35 years ago. They were once a pretty solid program.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:45 pm to MUMFORD
As college athletics went all in on becoming purely profit seeking ventures, the non-revenue sports (which is almost all of them) seem like they are doomed.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:47 pm to Pedro
FWIW, LSU T&F (Men and Women) cost about as much to run for the season as it did to run LSU Softball.
Posted on 6/17/25 at 4:53 pm to Cliff Booth
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Sure, but that's the NFL's fault. Maybe they should be paying some off that 20.5 million.
Has really nothing to do with my point that college sports was a Marxist experiment
The break up has some similarities to fall of the Soviet Union with several power people (P-5 schools) getting sick of the ineffective centralized bureaucracy and splitting off. Leaving the satellite states in no man’s land
Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:08 pm to Zappas Stache
10 is absolute horse shite for xc. I’m really hopeful this leads to either football and basketball breaking away from the ncaa and the other sports can go back to more of the way things were or vice versa. If things stay the way they are I don’t see how it’s sustainable
Posted on 6/17/25 at 5:08 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
LSU also host quite a few events so that helps. Not everyone has that luxury
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