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re: Will Clark makes quite the case for why Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:45 am to Houston problem
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:45 am to Houston problem
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Maybe Brady Anderson deserves the HOF for his Roided Out 50 HR year.
This is the most retarded argument ever if the goal is to discredit Barry Bonds in the early 90's.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:46 am to Houston problem
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He may have ended up in the HOF without Roids, but to say he would have been a 1st Ballot HOF inductee is a reach.
Not really, I saw an article that estimated the PEDs added 10-20% to Bonds HR total. So let’s go even further and say 50%. He had 374 pre 98. So 388 after cut that in half (194) that’s 568 easily in the HOF.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:49 am to Broski
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This is the most retarded argument ever if the goal is to discredit Barry Bonds in the early 90's.
No, it shows just how much difference Roids make.
Brady had 210 HR's and 50 came in his Roid year.
You can pretend Roids didn't make a huge difference all you want.
I guess Roids didn't help McGuire or Sosa either.
You're probably still glorifying that Roided Out HR chase
Roger Maris's family should have told both of them to F off.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:50 am to Houston problem
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No, it shows just how much difference Roids make.
Brady had 210 HR's and 50 came in his Roid year.
You can pretend Roids didn't make a huge difference all you want.
I guess Roids didn't help McGuire or Sosa either.
You're probably still glorifying that Roided Out HR chase
Roger Maris's family should have told both of them to F off.
You're not helping your case.
You had a stupid take because you weren't familiar with Barry Bonds' game when he was with the Pirates and his early Giants seasons.
Take the L and move on.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:53 am to CatfishJohn
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He had 3 MVPs before doing steroids
ETA:
Pre-1998, which is when he started using the juice, these were Bonds' stats:
It's hilarious that you think you know when he started doing steroids
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:54 am to Broski
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You had a stupid take because you weren't familiar with Barry Bonds' game when he was with the Pirates and his early Giants seasons.
Because you were there and know the exact date Barry started sticking that needle in his arse
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:54 am to Houston problem
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It's hilarious that you think you know when he started doing steroids
Oh frick, you're tripling down now.
You really don't like being proven wrong on message boards, huh?
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:54 am to Houston problem
He who is without sin cast the first stone. He who is in the hall of fame that is without sin is an statistical imposibility. Therefore, under these divine rules, pete deserves a spot of hall of fame!
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:56 am to Broski
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Oh frick, you're tripling down now.
You really don't like being proven wrong on message boards, huh?
If steroids don't make a difference then why are they banned?
If steroids don't make a difference then why do they do them?
I'm done with you.
Go put on your Barry Bonds jammies, it's past your nap time.
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:58 am to Houston problem
u madPosted on 10/12/26 at 11:58 am to Broski
We need Will Clark to weigh in on the Bonds debate. Ignore the steroids though, I’m on pins and needles waiting to hear Will’s opinion on if 762 HRs alone is enough to make him a hall of famer. Would also be curious to know if he thinks guys like Hank Aaron, Cy Young, Nolan Ryan deserve their spots in the hall
Posted on 10/12/26 at 11:59 am to Houston problem
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No, it shows just how much difference Roids make. Brady had 210 HR's and 50 came in his Roid year.
This is what’s known as anecdotal evidence
Anderson was a decent player who had one monster year (btw did he just decide to stop after 96?) Bonds won 3 MVPs in 4 years, (really should have been 4) Roger Maris hit 275 career HRs, 100 of those in just 2 seasons (1960 and 61). Now he obviously wasn’t using PEDs but does show sometimes players just have a couple of outlier seasons, Anderson never failed a drug test and has denied using and wasn’t implicated in any investigations iirc.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:00 pm to Broski
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I mean Pete should be in the Hall of Fame, so should Barry Bonds for that matter
Pete finally admitted to his transgression. I would feel much better about him being admitted posthumously
Bonds is still acting like a narcissistic dolt and wont own up to anything.
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:12 pm to slinger1317
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Will Clark loves Will Clark
If I was Will Clark, I'd love me too
Will Clark is tGOAT
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:17 pm to vengeanceofbrain
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We need Will Clark to weigh in on the Bonds debate. Ignore the steroids though, I’m on pins and needles waiting to hear Will’s opinion on if 762 HRs alone is enough to make him a hall of famer.
100% Clark would say Bonds is a HoF’er. They were teammates before the juice for 2 seasons, and Barry was a monster then.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:30 pm to Houston problem
Making a case for Pete is simple, look at the record.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 12:48 pm to Houston problem
You should post less. This is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. He was a 3 time MVP pre roids LOL
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 10/12/26 at 1:04 pm to dupergreenie
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Agreed with him (and Rose) being in the Hall...honestly I think all the 'alleged' steroid guys during the steroid era (and even the ones that were caught) should be in because they were also probably hitting against pitchers who were on stuff.
I still think that MLB knew that players were juicing and were ok with it so they could recapture the fans after the strike-shortened season. To think that Sosa and McGwire were on the straight and narrow in 97 and 98 is stupid.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 1:38 pm to WylieTiger
I agree. I don't think anyone really believes that those 2 were natty. My thing is it's not like they (or Bonds) were the only ones. While steroids can give an advantage what about the players in the 70s who took speed to keep up with the grind of baseball.
I find it silly that the HOF sticks its nose up at certain things but not others. If Bonds can't get in then neither should ANY player during the 'juiced era'.
I find it silly that the HOF sticks its nose up at certain things but not others. If Bonds can't get in then neither should ANY player during the 'juiced era'.
Posted on 10/12/26 at 1:41 pm to ecb
quote:Yep.
Shoeless joe before pete
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