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re: Will any baseball slugger break Bonds' record and hit 800+ HR's?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:46 am to lsupride87
Dude just stop
If you need evidence go look at some of the numbers in the 90’s, what players were hitting before they indulged in steroids & what they did after
Go look at Brady Anderson, jay bell, Steve Finley, Barry bonds, Brett Boone
You are basically saying Judge can’t get stronger.
If you need evidence go look at some of the numbers in the 90’s, what players were hitting before they indulged in steroids & what they did after
Go look at Brady Anderson, jay bell, Steve Finley, Barry bonds, Brett Boone
You are basically saying Judge can’t get stronger.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 10:48 am
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Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:48 am to Lester Earl
quote:Dude, where did I say steroids will not help players hit more homeruns?
If you need evidence go look at some of the numbers in the 90’s, what players were hitting before they indulged in steroids & what they did after
Go look at Brady Anderson, jay bell, Steve Finley, Barry bonds, Brett Boone
quote:Link?
You are basically saying Judge can’t get stronger.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 10:49 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:51 am to lsupride87
You see in many cases these guys HR numbers increasing at a near 50% rate. But you think adderall would help someone hit more HRs. What otherkind of evidence do you need?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:52 am to lsupride87
quote:
Link?
Your point is that you think Judge would hit more HRs with better concentration than he would if he took steroids
only you wouldn’t realize how ridiculous that sounds Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:53 am to ProjectP2294
quote:
Pitching is better now than it was then so it's harder to get those huge single season HR numbers even without accounting for steroids.
More HRs were hit last year than any other season in history
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:53 am to Lester Earl
quote:Well you really havent shown be any evidence that adderal or other amphetamines dont help
But you think adderall would help someone hit more HRs. What otherkind of evidence do you need?
I think in 99% of cases, steroids will help more in creating more HRs for a player than amphetamines would
I think in unique cases, when you already have a very strong player, amphetamines can increase homerun numbers more than giving steroids to that said player
That is not me saying steroids will not increase that players strength and numbers
So you can disagree, but please at least follow the argument and dont misconstrue my point to others
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 10:54 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:55 am to Lester Earl
Exactly, but I'm the one who bumped his head
Idk why I let my friends troll me like this
Idk why I let my friends troll me like this
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:55 am to kciDAtaE
quote:Adderal is more available and taken now more than any time in history
More HRs were hit last year than any other season in history
Ill just leave that 100% fact here for reauxl to lose his mind on
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:56 am to lsupride87
quote:
An already very big and strong athlete will benefit more from amphetamines in HR performance than HGH
as someone who has been prescribed amphetamines, I will tell you from first hand experience that is wrong. I actually wouldn't take that prescribed medication on days I had games because I played WORSE. I felt weaker and tighter.
Barry Bonds was already a big and strong athlete and his home run production essentially doubled after PED use (I say doubled based on his home runs per at bat).
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 10:58 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:59 am to lsufball19
quote:Well, you may have first hand experience with amphetmanines, but no offense, I dont think you have first hand experience with "the already very big and strong" person in my post
as someone who has been prescribed amphetamines, I will tell you from first hand experience that is wrong.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:59 am to mountaintop
Trout could definitely make a run at Bonds if he starts stringing 35-40 HR seasons together...
Posted on 7/16/18 at 10:59 am to lsupride87
quote:
Well you really havent shown be any evidence that adderal or other amphetamines dont help
That burden is kind of on you to show they do help since you are the one making that argument. You have failed to produce evidence that they do.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:00 am to lsupride87
quote:
Well, you may have first hand experience with amphetmanines, but no offense, I dont think you have first hand experience with "the already very big and strong" person in my post
Not sure why you think that's relevant? If I took steroids in high school, I could probably say I say my home run totals went up or whatever and you wouldn't argue with me. What level I played at doesn't really matter. PEDs don't require you be a major league player to see the results. Plenty of guys i went to high school with used steroids and they 100% helped them play to a level they wouldn't have otherwise. Adderall? Not so much
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:01 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:Yes because you're taking everything one poster said and attributing it to me. In fact, you literally said that I was posting as Pride while Pride is saying stuff I've never even gave an opinion on in this thread or previous threads.
Exactly, but I'm the one who bumped his head
Are you ok? I don't think you're ok right now, I'm worried about you.
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 11:02 am
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:01 am to Lester Earl
quote:
What will lead to more HR do you think adderall or HGH
HGH. But the subject is PEDs. Which both are PEDs.
Sorry, but regardless of what they did, there are many players that took drugs to get an edge. Don’t call the 90s players cheaters and act like 2 generations of baseball players before them were clean.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:02 am to Prominentwon
quote:This, all of it.
HGH. But the subject is PEDs. Which both are PEDs.
Sorry, but regardless of what they did, there are many players that took drugs to get an edge. Don’t call the 90s players cheaters and act like 2 generations of baseball players before them were clean.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:02 am to lsufball19
quote:Because without that qualifier, my whole point and opinion changes......
Not sure why you think that's relevant?
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:04 am to lsupride87
quote:
I think in unique cases, when you already have a very strong player, amphetamines can increase homerun numbers more than giving steroids to that said player
steroids and HGH also help players recover from injuries quicker than they would have otherwise but seems to be overlooked. It also helps players play better for longer in their careers. unless you have some other explanation as to how Bonds had the best years of his career from age 36-39.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:05 am to lsupride87
quote:
my whole point and opinion changes......
your whole point with that qualifier has no empirical evidence. It's is 100% conjecture, cannot be proven right or wrong, but it seems to be what you want to hang your hat on. Wonder why.
Posted on 7/16/18 at 11:05 am to lsufball19
quote:all true.
unless you have some other explanation as to how Bonds had the best years of his career from age 36-39.
But fwiw, I believe Aaron had his 3 best HR per ABs in the same age range, so what would his explanation be?
This post was edited on 7/16/18 at 11:31 am
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