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re: Why was Tom Herman unable to get Texas back on track?
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:40 am to I-59 Tiger
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:40 am to I-59 Tiger
Texas is a miserable place to coach I think. Herman is a good coach, but his personality didn't mesh with the boosters, just like Charlie Strong.
It's going to take a good ole boy like Mack Brown to get those boosters under control. Sark doesn't fit that mold I don't think.
It's going to take a good ole boy like Mack Brown to get those boosters under control. Sark doesn't fit that mold I don't think.
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Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:43 am to the LSUSaint
Texas needs a coach with enough cache to tell the boosters to beat it (like a Saban/Meyer) or a sleazy politician type that can make them feel they are having influence (Mack Brown).
Herman was neither. He was a rising star and with how quickly he brought UH to prominence, the boosters expected that type of result. It is easy to get your team up for one or two games though vs being on equal or lesser footing at best for a large portion of your schedule.
Strong was the same. His personality had no chance of him sticking at UT.
Herman was neither. He was a rising star and with how quickly he brought UH to prominence, the boosters expected that type of result. It is easy to get your team up for one or two games though vs being on equal or lesser footing at best for a large portion of your schedule.
Strong was the same. His personality had no chance of him sticking at UT.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:44 am to I-59 Tiger
There was a contingent of Georgia fans, including some in the media here in Atlanta, who wanted Herman instead of Kirby.
Glad they aren't making the decisions.
Glad they aren't making the decisions.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:44 am to I-59 Tiger
Something else had to be going on. There was friction with the AD and boosters.
Not giving him one more season after a pretty good year, considering the challenges, was odd.
But yeah, the boosters and all their money are entitled and don’t like losing to OU. Or looking down the street at Fisher and A&M starting to make waves.
Not giving him one more season after a pretty good year, considering the challenges, was odd.
But yeah, the boosters and all their money are entitled and don’t like losing to OU. Or looking down the street at Fisher and A&M starting to make waves.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:45 am to I-59 Tiger
Too woke
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:45 am to I-59 Tiger
Texas fans want to be competitive within their own conference. I don’t think that’s too big of an ask.
Big 12 titles since 2000:
OU - 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
Texas - 2005, 2009
Big 12 titles since 2000:
OU - 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
Texas - 2005, 2009
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:46 am to Billy Mays
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Old rich dudes who wear cowboy hats and smoke big cigars.
I am most certain the new UT wanting to be the Berkeley if the South has nothing to do with it. Masculinity for men is offensive and masculinity for women is praised. That’s all well and good, but it doesn’t make for a good football program.
The only people that want Texas to have a football team are the older alumni. They will not be relevant again for a long time, if ever.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:48 am to Geauxgurt
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Texas needs a coach with enough cache to tell the boosters to beat it (like a Saban/Meyer) or a sleazy politician type that can make them feel they are having influence (Mack Brown).
This. Saban laid down the law to the old GOB network and said "let me do my thing, stay out of my office and practice fields, and enjoy your trophies".
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:48 am to benson32
Wow. If Texas can not win more Big 12 titles than that over time, that is pathetic. Oklahoma owns them
Posted on 1/4/21 at 9:51 am to tiger perry
There are literally only two teams in the big 12 that can pull a top 20 recruiting class. Texas should be much closer to OU based on their recruiting classes. It's quite a sight.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:01 am to Geauxgurt
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Texas needs a coach with enough cache to tell the boosters to beat it (like a Saban/Meyer) or a sleazy politician type that can make them feel they are having influence (Mack Brown).
Herman was neither. He was a rising star and with how quickly he brought UH to prominence, the boosters expected that type of result. It is easy to get your team up for one or two games though vs being on equal or lesser footing at best for a large portion of your schedule.
Strong was the same. His personality had no chance of him sticking at UT.
Question stands....
You say the same dialog as others, but can't mention 1 thing a booster did to stop him from making the team better
Seriously, just name something
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:07 am to I-59 Tiger
quote:
Why was Tom Herman unable to get Texas back on track?
I would argue that he did get them back on track.
Texas isn’t the powerhouse they think they are. That’s their problem
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:08 am to SPEEDY
Bingo......
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:12 am to CatfishJohn
I know it is in poor taste but how long until the boosters cause Sark to relapse?
The stress at that job is going to be immense.
The stress at that job is going to be immense.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:19 am to I-59 Tiger
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Why was Tom Herman unable to get Texas back on track?
Loss to TCU when Ingram fumbled at the goal line, followed by the loss to Oklahoma in 4OTs when Herman should have gone for 2 at the end of regulation or at the end of 2OT.
Those two losses eliminated Texas from being in the CFP race, and fractured the locker room. Tensions over the Eyes of Texas were already boiling over. Combined with the frustration of losing, Herman lost the team, dysfunction ensued, and Quinn Ewers de-committed and picked Ohio State.
Losing on the field and losing the no.1 QB was the death knell for Herman. He wins those two games, Texas never fractures because of the adrenaline of being undefeated, he hangs onto Ewers, everyone is happy.
This post was edited on 1/4/21 at 10:21 am
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:21 am to RogerTempleton
“Tensions from The Eyes Of Texas?”
While I can believe you that they happened, the whole thing is fricking asinine given that no one gave a shite until recently.
While I can believe you that they happened, the whole thing is fricking asinine given that no one gave a shite until recently.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:22 am to benson32
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Why was Tom Herman unable to get Texas back on track?
Texas fans want to be competitive within their own conference. I don’t think that’s too big of an ask.
Big 12 titles since 2000:
OU - 2000, 2002, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2012, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020
Texas - 2005, 2009
This. Whatever you may think of Texas's history, they will not be satisfied until they are on the same footing as Oklahoma. There's no reason that shouldn't be an even rivalry when you look at resources and local talent.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:26 am to teke184
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Why was Tom Herman unable to get Texas back on track?
“Tensions from The Eyes Of Texas?”
While I can believe you that they happened, the whole thing is fricking asinine given that no one gave a shite until recently.
I agree that it is ridiculous, but it caused a lot of problems this year.
Herman was fine coming into the season, particularly after landing Quinn Ewers. Texas should have gone undefeated in conference with the amount of returning talent they had and the state of the big 12. Texas blew the TCU and Iowa State games, and Herman crapped his pants against Oklahoma.
Posted on 1/4/21 at 10:29 am to I-59 Tiger
It's not about X's and O's all the time now. It is establishing the culture in the program like Saban, Dabo, Meyer do. He never did this.
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