re: Why don’t more teams do the Tush Push?

Posted by RB10

Member since Nov 2010

50697 posts

Posted on 10/9/25 at 11:02 pm to TT9

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will they vote it down again?

With the extra emphasis on the false starts, and the fact the officials still aren’t calling them, I’d bet good money it’s getting voted out this offseason.

Posted by suavecito80

Member since Apr 2014

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 5:26 am to jdaute2

Not every other time lol EVERY TIME

Posted by JakeFromStateFarm

*wears khakis

Member since Jun 2012

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 6:15 am to SaintlyTiger88

For everything negative you could say about Jalen Hurts, he has ridiculous lower body strength. Most teams don’t have a QB that can squat 600 pounds that can just get low and muscle their way forward. That’s why it works for the Eagles and not other teams.

Posted by suavecito80

Member since Apr 2014

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:34 am to JakeFromStateFarm

Nothing to do with probably the best oline in the league or anything. Along with being shoved forward. Nah none of that.

Posted by Fun Bunch

New Orleans

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 9:35 am to SaintlyTiger88

They get called for false starts when they do it

The eagles do not

Posted by Scoob

Near Exxon

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 11:58 am to Gifman

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Mike Leach wanted to throw midgets in short yardage situations.. true story

So, someone pull up the relevant rules against that. Seriously. Because google's AI says

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No, it is not against the rules for an offensive player to throw another player forward, but a specific type of play like a "pass" or "lateral" is. Throwing a teammate forward is not considered a pass, it is considered assisting the runner and is legal as long as the player with the ball is still moving forward and hasn't been ruled down.
Legal plays
Assisting the runner: An offensive player can physically push or carry a teammate who has the ball to move them forward. This is legal as long as the player with the ball is still moving forward and their forward progress has not been stopped by the referee.
Illegal plays
Forward pass: It is illegal to throw a second forward pass on a single down. This includes a second pass thrown from behind the line of scrimmage.
Forward handoff: It is illegal to hand the ball forward to another player beyond the line of scrimmage. This is considered a forward pass and is not allowed after a player has advanced past the line of scrimmage.
Key takeaways
It is illegal to throw a forward pass for your teammate.
It is legal to physically push your teammate forward to assist them in advancing the ball

So, if the Saints wanted to pay Peter Dinklage a million dollars to suit up, and have Taysom Hill sling his arse over the line of scrimmage ... it appears to be legal.

Posted by The Torch

DFW The Dub

Member since Aug 2014

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:38 pm to Cosmo

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Saints tried and they called a false start

They could call this on the Eagles about half the time if they would.

Posted by saintsfan92612

Taiwan

Member since Oct 2008

30057 posts

Posted on 10/10/25 at 12:54 pm to Cosmo

the rules are just different for certain teams.

The league used to allow the Seahawks to get away with illegal contact on defense way more than any other team

The league lets the Chiefs line up with their tackles off the line way more than any other team

The league lets the Eagles guards false start more than any other team

Posted by lsupride87

Member since Dec 2007

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:45 pm to Scoob

The midget throw for one yard seems like it would hoenstly be impossible to stop

Posted by GoGators1995

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 2:48 pm to SaintlyTiger88

Someone needs to sign my man Desmond Watson to the league minimum and use him on the goal line. He's only 437 lbs now.

Posted by Scoob

Near Exxon

Member since Jun 2009

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Posted on 10/10/25 at 3:23 pm to GoGators1995

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Someone needs to sign my man Desmond Watson to the league minimum and use him on the goal line. He's only 437 lbs now.

Nah, he needs momentum and can't elevate.

The midget theory on the other hand... you get a smaller guy that somebody could hammer-toss over the pile, and it's unstoppable until you kill him. Might be some dudes willing to do so for a couple million bucks. Maybe not a midget, but some small-framed acrobat with hops on his own, and who knew how to land without breaking his neck and back. You'd probably figure out a way to get a good 10-12 ft elevation.

And I guess the question is, would it really be more hazardous than being in the middle of about a ton (2000 lbs) of guys pushing in either direction?
You'd have the "defenseless player" aspect, so linebackers can't blow him up on the way down. Then he just stays down when he lands; or his forward progress is stopped (you keep the gain).

Posted by reverendotis

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Member since Nov 2007

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Posted on 10/11/25 at 1:11 am to lsupride87

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The midget throw for one yard seems like it would hoenstly be impossible to stop

If memory serves me, none other than offensive genius and innovator Mike Leach reached that same conclusion. It took others to convince him the optics for the program (I think he was at WSU) would be terrible. That doesn't mean he was wrong though.

This post was edited on 10/11/25 at 1:12 am

Posted by Hamma1122

Member since Sep 2016

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Posted on 10/11/25 at 4:54 am to SaintlyTiger88

Most QBs don’t squat 650 pounds