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Why do the Big Ten and others not force Notre Dame to join or die?
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:33 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:33 am
The Big X teams, with the ACC and SEC trailingm are simps past the level of Big 12 teams when they supplicated themselves to UT.
They have their solo TV contract and an easier route to the playoffs starting next year.
The other P4 conferences need to stop scheduling them until they join a conference. See how NBC responds when the Irish has zero marquee ganes.
They have their solo TV contract and an easier route to the playoffs starting next year.
The other P4 conferences need to stop scheduling them until they join a conference. See how NBC responds when the Irish has zero marquee ganes.
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Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:35 am to Cell of Awareness
They're not in a hurry. ND brings eyeballs so they're is a benefit to throwing them in, but the SEC/Big 10 isn't going to sacrifice their own for the Irish. They'll join soon enough.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:37 am to Cell of Awareness
Well the big ten did stab the pac 10 in the back under the guise of we are all in this together.
They also are the cause for all of the NIL
They also are trying to bring in private equity to owning college football
So if anyone is going to choke off tradition and further ruin football it will be the big ten.
They also are the cause for all of the NIL
They also are trying to bring in private equity to owning college football
So if anyone is going to choke off tradition and further ruin football it will be the big ten.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:37 am to Ssubba
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They're not in a hurry. ND brings eyeballs so they're is a benefit to throwing them in, but the SEC/Big 10 isn't going to sacrifice their own for the Irish. They'll join soon enough.
There will be no more eyeballs on the P2 because of Notre Dame, There are enough marquee matchups without the Irish.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:38 am to Cell of Awareness
Because the B1G is predominantly a Protestant region that largely distrusts/dislikes Catholics.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:42 am to Ssubba
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They're not in a hurry. ND brings eyeballs so they're is a benefit to throwing them in, but the SEC/Big 10 isn't going to sacrifice their own for the Irish. They'll join soon enough.
FYI, and I just discovered this this morning, ND didn't even crack the top 10 of most watched teams of 2025. They finished at 15 and they have their own fricking deal with an OTA network. It's not 1988 anymore. People genuinely do not give a frick about ND.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:44 am to Adam Banks
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Well the big ten did stab the pac 10 in the back under the guise of we are all in this together.
The PAC 12 stabbed their own teams in the front. Larry Scott was an arrogant and ignorant piece of crap who was more worried about his fifty milliion dollar office move to San Francisco than keeping up with the other power conferences.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:53 am to Cell of Awareness
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Well the big ten did stab the pac 10 in the back under the guise of we are all in this together. The PAC 12 stabbed their own teams in the front
Perhaps you forget the Big ten pac 12 ACC alliance
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On Aug. 24 (2021) the commissioners of the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12 held a joint video conference to announce the Alliance, a new partnership between three of the five most powerful conferences in college athletics.
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The Alliance came together weeks after the SEC's stunning addition of Oklahoma and Texas, and amid a turbulent and transformative summer for college athletics. It was formed, in part, as a response to realignment and the SEC's power play. The main purpose was to pump the brakes on poaching teams and not generate more disruption,
Big ten poached usc and ucla literally less than 1 year post forming this
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Jul 11, 2022, 07:45 AM
Unbeknownst to nearly everyone in attendance, Bohn and others had been working quietly for months on a stunning move that would throw the future of the college sports landscape into flux. USC, which joined the Pacific Coast Conference in 1922 and had been in the league that would become the Pac-12 ever since, was set to uproot and join the Big Ten. The Trojans would leave with crosstown rival UCLA, a Pac-12 member since 1928.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 9:57 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:55 am to Cell of Awareness
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The PAC 12 stabbed their own teams in the front. Larry Scott was an arrogant and ignorant piece of crap who was more worried about his fifty milliion dollar office move to San Francisco than keeping up with the other power conferences.
All true, but USC and UCLA had the power to change the PAC leadership. It was very short sighted on their part to join the Big10.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 9:57 am to Adam Banks
I know about the alliance and it still was more a result of Pac 12 mismanagement than Big Ten recuitment, Had Scott not destroyed the conference they would not have been game to move.
USC and UCLA were two votes out of 12.
USC and UCLA were two votes out of 12.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 9:58 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:06 am to Cell of Awareness
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and it still was more a result of Pac 12 mismanagement than Big Ten recuitment,
If you simultaneously are setting up an “alliance” with the conference to not poach teams and then pillage the highest earning schools from a conference starting with negotiating with the two biggest schools in the second largest city in the US while that basically makes your entire organization and its schools pieces of crap.
This post was edited on 12/8/25 at 10:07 am
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:06 am to Cell of Awareness
If the Pac 12 would have signed that media rights deal instead of completely overvaluing that they were worth it would not have fallen apart.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:07 am to Cell of Awareness
ND is protected if they're top 12 starting next year
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:07 am to Cell of Awareness
Once the B1G and SEC raid the ACC and take its best programs, then we might finally see Notre Dame forced to join the B1G. It wouldn't shock me if the B1G and SEC eventually move to 10 conference games - assuming they both round out at 18-20 programs. That would severely limit the interest in any of those B1G or SEC schools adding Notre Dame to the non-conference schedule. Even at nine conference games, a lot of these programs have non-conference annual rivalries and won't be looking to add a 10th/11th game against a heavy-hitting program.
So at that point, the only "power" conference left for Notre Dame to schedule with will be the Big 12, and Notre Dame would view most of those programs as beneath them. And I can't imagine that NBC would continue to shell out big bucks to Notre Dame if their schedule consists of UCF, Cincinnati, Iowa State, and Houston.
If I was betting on this, I'd wager that Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, and Virginia announce that they are leaving the ACC this summer for the B1G/SEC. If a Notre Dame to the B1G doesn't quickly follow, then maybe Notre Dame will go down with the ship and stay independent regardless of the cost.
So at that point, the only "power" conference left for Notre Dame to schedule with will be the Big 12, and Notre Dame would view most of those programs as beneath them. And I can't imagine that NBC would continue to shell out big bucks to Notre Dame if their schedule consists of UCF, Cincinnati, Iowa State, and Houston.
If I was betting on this, I'd wager that Clemson, Florida State, North Carolina, and Virginia announce that they are leaving the ACC this summer for the B1G/SEC. If a Notre Dame to the B1G doesn't quickly follow, then maybe Notre Dame will go down with the ship and stay independent regardless of the cost.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:12 am to Cell of Awareness
They may have this year if they got in over Miami.
Fun fact: Notre Dame plays 3 away games next year- North Carolina, Purdue, and Syracuse.
Fun fact: Notre Dame plays 3 away games next year- North Carolina, Purdue, and Syracuse.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:13 am to Adam Banks
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Well the big ten did stab the pac 10 in the back under the guise of we are all in this together.
The PAC 10 committed suicide and the big ten stripped the carcass. They were dead and had no path to a TV deal that would enable them to compete.
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They also are the cause for all of the NIL
That is hilariously wrong. They fought NIL for years.
NIL (Name, Image, and Likeness) started with legal challenges to the NCAA's amateurism rules, notably O'Bannon v. NCAA and Alston v. NCAA, which highlighted antitrust violations and led to the Supreme Court ruling against NCAA restrictions, forcing states and the NCAA to allow athletes to profit from their personal brand, culminating in California passing the first state NIL law in 2019 and the NCAA adopting its own policy in 2021, ushering in the modern NIL era
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They also are trying to bring in private equity to owning college football
The big twelve was the first to explore this. Not the big ten.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:13 am to OhioLSUfan
If they burn the bridge with ACC, which they seem all in on doing, the P4 conferences need to fully black ball them until they join a conference. Not a single game on the schedule going forward.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:14 am to Cell of Awareness
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Why do the Big Ten and others not force Notre Dame to join or die?
Because it’s college football, where there are no rules if you have enough money
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:31 am to Adam Banks
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If you simultaneously are setting up an “alliance” with the conference to not poach teams and then pillage the highest earning schools from a conference starting with negotiating with the two biggest schools in the second largest city in the US while that basically makes your entire organization and its schools pieces of crap.
The PAC 12 joined the alliance which is more proof of their mismanagement.
Posted on 12/8/25 at 10:33 am to Cell of Awareness
The irony that the Big 10 long ago blackballed ND from joining the conference.
So ND said fine, we will create our own path and play an independent, national schedule.
Now the Big 10 or other conferences want to force ND into a conference after ND succeeded on its own and without the help of the conferences/unions.
That's pretty rich.
So ND said fine, we will create our own path and play an independent, national schedule.
Now the Big 10 or other conferences want to force ND into a conference after ND succeeded on its own and without the help of the conferences/unions.
That's pretty rich.
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