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re: Why can't the kicker and punter be the same person?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:51 pm to thesoccerfanjax
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:51 pm to thesoccerfanjax
I can float in a pool if that's what you're asking..
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Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:54 pm to thesoccerfanjax
Designated long snapper a waste? Wow. You're reaching with that one
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:54 pm to HandGrenade
The WR and CB from the same team are not on the field at the same time.
The fact is, football positions are highly specialized and the more specialized your training is, the better you will be at that specific position. That's really what it comes down to.
The fact is, football positions are highly specialized and the more specialized your training is, the better you will be at that specific position. That's really what it comes down to.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:56 pm to KG5989
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KG5989
I understand that but I honestly don't see how difficult it would be to learn different ways of kicking a ball when your job is kicking a ball. Not saying anyone and everyone off the street can do it and do it effectively but why can't a person being paid to be a kicker kick the ball whether from the ground or from their hand?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:58 pm to HandGrenade
For the same reason a person being paid to catch a ball can't be the same person who is paid to try to prevent a person from catching a ball.
It's simple, right?
It's simple, right?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:58 pm to HandGrenade
He didn't punt at all, but used to enjoy watching Gino Cappelletti as he kicked 176 field goals for the Pats while catching 292 passes for 4,589 yards.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 3:58 pm to thesoccerfanjax
You're right about the wr/cb thing. My point wasn't that they could play both positions (even though some technically could). My point is that it isn't absurd to think a person can kick the ball from the ground AND from his hands if he put in the effort to learn both techniques. You don't see wr's running only one route or o-linemen that only run OR pass block. Sure a certain lineman might be better at one or the other, but they're still expected to do both.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:00 pm to HandGrenade
The celebrations require completely different dances. But seriously, most do both but do one better and all need two.
Looking one thread down & seeing Staubach reminded me that QB Danny White used to be the Cowboys punter.
Looking one thread down & seeing Staubach reminded me that QB Danny White used to be the Cowboys punter.
This post was edited on 1/13/14 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:01 pm to HandGrenade
Again. Do you know what activity specific training is? Why would you want your kicker/punter to have to split time training between the two and become worse at both, when kickers/punters aren't making that much anyways and the teams can afford it? Do you really think the staff would find that worthwhile?
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:03 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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Do you know what activity specific training is?
Yes..I went into that a little with lineman
I'm not saying EVERY punter should kick field goals and vice versa. But how is it that there isn't a single person on a team that can do both.
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Do you really think the staff would find that worthwhile?
Yes..if someone could do it. Which it isn't outlandish to think it's impossible.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:03 pm to thesoccerfanjax
If your have a punter who is your back up kicker and a kicker who is your back up punter, are you really saving a roster spot? I am assuming if you have a guy that does both, you will need a backup to him in case of injury. Seems logical to have one guy backup the other and specialize in one form of kicking.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:07 pm to thesoccerfanjax
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Again. Do you know what activity specific training is? Why would you want your kicker/punter to have to split time training between the two and become worse at both, when kickers/punters aren't making that much anyways and the teams can afford it? Do you really think the staff would find that worthwhile?
Whitworth works at LT and LG. Sproles works at RB and WR. I mean it's not crazy to think an accurate FG kicker could learn how to punt as well. That's all I'm saying. You would think by now, they would have had someone do this before. But I get you need a backup, so I get why there is a punter and kicker.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:08 pm to HandGrenade
A kicker can be, and often is, the difference between a win and a loss. Most HC's are not leaving anything to chance in that area. That's just the way it is. For that reason, punting would most likely get put on the back burner and would suffer as a result. When it comes to punting and kicking it's all about reps and consistency. That's why (starting) punters and kickers are separate.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:09 pm to bwallcubfan
Right. For the record, I'm not saying it's wrong to have a kicker and a punter..just surprised there aren't more people that do both.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:13 pm to HandGrenade
Punters and KO guys should be the same person. And should be different than the FG specialist. Because there are many more opportunities for a Punter or KO guy to get hit when he's in the game and FG specialists are too valuable to allow that to happen.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:25 pm to HandGrenade
A kicker can be run outa town.
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:33 pm to HandGrenade
If that one person gets injured, you're fricked
Posted on 1/13/14 at 4:41 pm to bwallcubfan
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Whitworth works at LT and LG. Sproles works at RB and WR. I mean it's not crazy to think an accurate FG kicker could learn how to punt as well. That's all I'm saying. You would think by now, they would have had someone do this before. But I get you need a backup, so I get why there is a punter and kicker.
and guys back each other up, but its valuable enough to maximize each
not to mention have a guy who doesnt have a dead leg from thousands of extra practice kicks come january
Posted on 1/13/14 at 5:31 pm to HandGrenade
Raise your son to be a QB and pooch punt specialist.
Too long for a field goal but don't need a booming punt? Perfect, put in little Witness23 part 2 and he reads the D and goes for it or punts it.
Pay me millions
Too long for a field goal but don't need a booming punt? Perfect, put in little Witness23 part 2 and he reads the D and goes for it or punts it.
Pay me millions
Posted on 1/13/14 at 5:51 pm to HandGrenade
Because they serve as 50% capable backups if the other gets hurt.
If you only have one and he gets hurt you have to find someone else who would struggle with 30 yarders. It's more beneficial to have each with a decent backup than use that spot on some 3rd stringer that never plays.
If you only have one and he gets hurt you have to find someone else who would struggle with 30 yarders. It's more beneficial to have each with a decent backup than use that spot on some 3rd stringer that never plays.
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