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Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:56 am to Cosmo
Stan Van Gundy has had some pretty smart common sense takes on load management and the effects it has on injuries. Players resting more often is leading to more injuries compared to previous years of guys averaging more games/minutes per year and getting injured less.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:06 pm to Stonehog
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You don't know what you're talking about, do you?
Do you? Are you part of an NBA team?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:14 pm to Cosmo
Different type of physicality/kinetics.
The strain the NBA puts on players is clearly moving beyond the limits of the human body, even for the biggest freaks on earth.
The strain the NBA puts on players is clearly moving beyond the limits of the human body, even for the biggest freaks on earth.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:16 pm to CatfishJohn
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Also the mindset in terms of physicality and injuries between hockey players and 2026 NBA players are polar opposites. Modern basketball players are mostly soft as baby shite.
The difference is that the NBA players have to be mindful of small injuries, which quickly become big injuries.
Calf strains become torn Achilles very easily. KD and Haliburton both tore their Achilles in the finals by pushing too hard.
You don't have the same sort of explosive movements in hockey, which decreases the chances of these sorts of progressions.
This post was edited on 2/13/26 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:25 pm to Cosmo
Less financial investment in the players … less incentive that the best and most popular players are needed for playoffs and primetime games
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:32 pm to Cosmo
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Do you?
There are significant penalties for failing to accurately report injuries before every game. You wouldn't lie about a calf strain to miss one game. You can literally list "rest" as a reason to hold a player out.
The NBA investigates injury claims if there's any appearance of impropriety.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:32 pm to Boodis Man
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Less physical effort is required in hockey since the ice and skates assist in movement. In other sports you actually have to run hard which is tougher on the joints
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:44 pm to Stastny
I hated Forsberg when he played. I mean, legit despised him.
But I always respected him.
But I always respected him.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:44 pm to S
I think a lot of baseball DL stints are more owners/coaches protecting their investment than a guy being "soft"
What do I know though.
What do I know though.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You don't have the same sort of explosive movements in hockey, which decreases the chances of these sorts of progressions.
Huh? Everything about hockey is designed around explosive movement. Start/stop, quick sprints, the fast twitch of shooting, then all of the athletic wizardry that is goal tending.
I think it has more to do with the impact of the movement, and not its explosion.
Culture absolutely has something to do with it, as well.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:56 pm to CatfishJohn
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hockey is physically hard as frick. The effort is insane, which is why they do constant shifts changes.
Hockey requires tremendous balance. That balance is acquired through core strength. Anything that requires a lot of continuous core exertion is physically exhausting, and it is sneakily so because you are not doing obvious things that look physically difficult, just continuously using those core muscles.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:20 pm to LSURoss
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I think a lot of baseball DL stints are more owners/coaches protecting their investment than a guy being "soft"
Baseball players go on the DL for blisters and minor abrasions. Are NBA teams not “protecting their investment” when say the Spurs hold Wemby out of a back to back at the end of a long road trip or ahead of the playoffs?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:37 pm to S
I think a lot of the prescribed rest is as much organization driven as it player driven. That’s definitely true for pitching, where an elbow surgery and 15-18 months off is an expectation during a pitcher’s years of team control. In my opinion the mental grind for a position player in baseball is more taxing than the physical
Either playing or on a plane (or both) every day from April to the end of September, and even the very best players are going to have several week stretches where they play like complete shite.
Either playing or on a plane (or both) every day from April to the end of September, and even the very best players are going to have several week stretches where they play like complete shite.
This post was edited on 2/13/26 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:41 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
Kaz Matsui WOAT injury designation
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:42 pm to S
Wiped his arse too hard after bad road trip meal IMO FWIW
Posted on 2/13/26 at 4:22 pm to Cosmo
Because you have to be a real man to play in the NHL
Posted on 2/13/26 at 4:41 pm to Tiger Prawn
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I'm going to guess that it has to do with more frequent substitutions in hockey, so star players aren't playing 40 minutes a game. And skating seems like less stress and impact to the legs compared to running, jumping, and planting your feet for quick changes of direction.
It’s A) platooning, B) the biomechanics nature of what each sport asks (which you allude to), and C) the likelihood of injury given the player profile.
The average height in the NBA is 6’7”. The average height in the NHL is 6’1”.
In other words, the average NBA player is 3 - 3.5 standard deviations with plenty of guys 4 - 5 standard deviations above average human male height for the developed world. NHL players are about 1 standard deviation above the mean.
NBA players are true genetic freaks, and musculoskeletal injuries are likelier the taller you get. Much more of the NHL population falls closer to the mean in the normal curve.
This post was edited on 2/13/26 at 6:57 pm
Posted on 2/13/26 at 8:56 pm to mdomingue
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hockey is physically hard as frick. The effort is insane, which is why they do constant shifts changes.
Hockey requires tremendous balance. That balance is acquired through core strength. Anything that requires a lot of continuous core exertion is physically exhausting, and it is sneakily so because you are not doing obvious things that look physically difficult, just continuously using those core muscles.
IMHO hockey players are probably the most well-conditioned and strongest professional athletes pound for pound. Plus, if you are not one tough SOB, you aren't playing pro hockey.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:04 pm to Cosmo
It's a different sort of leverage than sports where you are on Terra firma. Similar to skiing, where Lindsey Vonn was able to ski on a torn ACL, there is a lot of gliding and while you might not be at your best, you can still go. With that said , there are a lot of injuries in the NHL.
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