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re: Who is the greatest fighter of all-time? (Anderson Silva or Fedor Emelianenko)

Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:01 pm to
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WTF Cro cop could have never made 205.


Cro Cop walks around at around the same weight Anderson Silva does. lol He could have cut to LHW.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:02 pm to
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WTF Cro cop could have never made 205.

cro cop was fighting at like 217=220 ish for many fights and he didn't cut weight
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:03 pm to
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Never said Fedor wasn't the best HW for a time. I agree. He was. Just google Fedor's name and look at the guys he fought after big Nog in Dec 2004. That is all I'm saying. He was supposed to be the best fighter in the world and he wasn't fighting other top fighters when he fought them.


Cro Cop
Mark Coleman
Mark Hunt

are those guys not top fighters?
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:07 pm to
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Cro Cop walks around at around the same weight Anderson Silva does. lol He could have cut to LHW.


No he couldn't. Cro cop is MUCH MUCH bigger than Anderson.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:09 pm to
i think he did do that. but then again maybe he thought he was aging or perhaps wanted to retire earlier than what he did
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30103 posts
Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:11 pm to
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Cro Cop
Mark Coleman
Mark Hunt

are those guys not top fighters?


Forgot about Cro Cop (who was exposed in UFC by the way), but we can still go from 2005 to 2010. Mark Coleman was old as shite when Fedor fought him (born in 64). Mark Hunt had just lost to Barnett in 2:30 minutes right before he fought Fedor. He did much much better against Fedor. He is also 17 and 9 on his career. AWESOME!!!
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:12 pm to
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No he couldn't. Cro cop is MUCH MUCH bigger than Anderson.


So you don't know shite and you call other people retarded? I see.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:12 pm to
A.Silva walks around at 220 and has a LHW frame. his natural fighting division should be LHW. he's been ducking the extremely competitive LHW division for a long time. A.Silva is bigger, stronger, and had significant reach advantage over everyone he fought in MW.

Fedor almost always fought fighters bigger than him.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:14 pm to
at one point cro cop was pushing close to 240. but most of his fights he was 230 or under. he could have cut the weight like many other lhw's do if he really wanted to
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:17 pm to
Well lets take this route....


Who wins at LHW?

Anderson during his amazing run or Fedor during his?
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:18 pm to
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at one point cro cop was pushing close to 240. but most of his fights he was 230 or under. he could have cut the weight like many other lhw's do if he really wanted to



IDK, CroCop is ridiculously thick, just like Pat Barry
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:20 pm to
Cro Cop weighed around 225 most of the time I have seen him fight without much cutting, just getting in fight shape. He could have got 20 pounds off just for the weigh in. IMO.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:21 pm to
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A.Silva walks around at 220 and has a LHW frame. his natural fighting division should be LHW. he's been ducking the extremely competitive LHW division for a long time. A.Silva is bigger, stronger, and had significant reach advantage over everyone he fought in MW. Fedor almost always fought fighters bigger than him.



I agree and disagree. A completely out of fighting shape Anderson probably is around 220, but an in between fights Anderson is probably 210 and cutting 25 lbs isn't hard to do. Anderson has a LHW frame and fights at 185, no big deal.
Posted by Crompdaddy8
Jimmy Rustler
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:21 pm to
Silva is 2 inches taller and has 3.6 inch reach advantage, but I'd take Fedor in his prime.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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7970 posts
Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:22 pm to
Is Fedor more impressive for winning and not cutting weight or just stupid for not cutting the weight and fighting smaller guys?
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30103 posts
Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:25 pm to
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I agree and disagree. A completely out of fighting shape Anderson probably is around 220, but an in between fights Anderson is probably 210 and cutting 25 lbs isn't hard to do. Anderson has a LHW frame and fights at 185, no big deal.


AS lets himself get up around 230 lately. GSP was just talking about that, not to long ago
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:25 pm to
Fedor is one of the guys I actually think could have benefited from coming to the UFC. He could have used the cage to secure take downs and being able to use elbows on the ground would have been nasty.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Member since Aug 2008
7970 posts
Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:27 pm to
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AS lets himself get up around 230 lately. GSP was just talking about that, not to long ago



Lately.....


That's because he's nearly 40 yrs old. As we all know its WAY easier to gain weight as you get older.

IMO Anderson is fighting in the division that best suits his frame.
Posted by Shoulderchoke
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:29 pm to
You have to remember Anderson fought quite a number of fights at 170 lbs. Do you honestly think he was cutting 60 lbs?
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
30103 posts
Posted on 6/23/13 at 12:32 pm to
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Lately.....


That's because he's nearly 40 yrs old. As we all know its WAY easier to gain weight as you get older.

IMO Anderson is fighting in the division that best suits his frame.



I was just pointing out that Cro Cop isn't "Much Much" bigger then Anderson. Silva could fight at 215 maybe even 220 and be in fight shape. I agree MW is the place for him to be a superstar though.
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