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re: Who is the greatest fighter of all-time? (Anderson Silva or Fedor Emelianenko)
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:33 am to Palm Beach Tiger
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:33 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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Sylvia had lost 2 out of 3 in the UFC. His next fight after Fedor he lost to Ray fricking Mercer in 9 seconds. Pretty sure it is safe to say he had lost his drive.
So again who were these awesome UFC heavyweights that he was ducking?
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Dan Henderson at 185
Not the same level of fighter as Nogueira
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 11:37 am
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Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Fedor and Randy are pretty close in size though. I still wish they would have fought back then. Not as much as Barnett vs Fedor, but I still would have liked to have seen it. Fedor let his crazy management frick everything up though. And I know he was scheduled to fight Barnett, but the fact is they never ended up fighting.....ever. He fought no one, for a very long time and I don't see how anyone can say different. I would have been interested to see if fighting in the UFC cage would have hurt him or helped him. It obviously made a big difference for some of the pride guys. the different rules as well.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:36 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Dan Henderson at 185
Not the same calibur of fighter Nogueira is.
Then why did he beat Fedor when he fought him at HW? lol
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:40 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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Then why did he beat Fedor when he fought him at HW? lol
Fedor was well past his prime
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 11:41 am
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:42 am to VerlanderBEAST
hendo obviously has had more longevity than fedor
that's hendo's big thing
that's hendo's big thing
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:42 am to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:agreed. I'll never understand why Chael attempted that spinning backfist
was winning when his dumb arse got to aggressive and tried that crazy move that got him leveled.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:44 am to VerlanderBEAST
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That was a very questionable decision both guys were inexperienced when the fought that first time. IIRC Nog beat him pretty easily when they fought again in Pride
Hendo TKO'd Fedor 2 years ago. I don't know what you are talking about.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:45 am to VerlanderBEAST
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Fedor was well past his prime
Hendo is like 6 or 7 years older then him bro
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:45 am to Palm Beach Tiger
Hendo beat Fedor....beat him fair and square (let me just get that out of the way before I continue on and discredit Hendo)
With that being said Hendo got a lucky fricking punch in and is not the better fighter. Yes Hendo beat Fedor, but Fedor >>>>> Hendo.
With that being said Hendo got a lucky fricking punch in and is not the better fighter. Yes Hendo beat Fedor, but Fedor >>>>> Hendo.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:46 am to UFownstSECsince1950
Lol@ Arlovski "winning" for 3 min of a 25 min fight, then absolutely get decimated with a bomb and not making it out of the 1st.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:47 am to Shoulderchoke
I was only joking with him
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:50 am to Shoulderchoke
Yep.... Hendo beat Fedor fair and square. It was a damn good scrap and Hendo caught him right on the button when he wasn't expecting it. There aren't many fighters that would have survived that shot.
IMO Fedor wins the majority of the time, but we will never know.
Something people keep neglecting is the fact that Fedor was extremely undersized and dominated a division run by guys 3-4" taller and 20-30 lbs heavier.
IMO Fedor wins the majority of the time, but we will never know.
Something people keep neglecting is the fact that Fedor was extremely undersized and dominated a division run by guys 3-4" taller and 20-30 lbs heavier.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:51 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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Hendo is like 6 or 7 years older then him bro
So? Not everyone's prime is the same. If you honestly think the Fedor of 2005 would lose to guys like Big Foot Silva then I don' know what to tell you.
This post was edited on 6/23/13 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:52 am to Shoulderchoke
I don't think Fedor was past his prime as much as he was fighting good fighters and got caught.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:54 am to UFownstSECsince1950
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With that being said Hendo got a lucky fricking punch in and is not the better fighter. Yes Hendo beat Fedor, but Fedor >>>>> Hendo.
I wasn't trying to say that Hendo is better then Fedor. I'm saying his name at 185 pounds is just as big as Big Nog's at HW. And the same can be said about lucky punches with both AA and Timmay. Its fighting it happens. I know. Never said Fedor wasn't the best HW for a time. I agree. He was. Just google Fedor's name and look at the guys he fought after big Nog in Dec 2004. That is all I'm saying. He was supposed to be the best fighter in the world and he wasn't fighting other top fighters when he fought them. There is no disputing that. It did not happen. Hell, some of those fights were fricking embarrassing shite like the fight with that 7ft Asian guy. There is no defending that. Anderson has always fought one of the top contenders in his weight class for virtually every fight he has had since going to UFC. Fedor did not, for a very long time.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:55 am to Shoulderchoke
He was wreck less against Werdum, he got dominated by a much larger man against Silva and he got caught by one of the most powerful punchers in MMA against Hendo.
I think I'm today's MMA, where everyone is more skilled and better athletes, Fedor would have to compete at LHW or MW.
I think I'm today's MMA, where everyone is more skilled and better athletes, Fedor would have to compete at LHW or MW.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:57 am to Shoulderchoke
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Something people keep neglecting is the fact that Fedor was extremely undersized and dominated a division run by guys 3-4" taller and 20-30 lbs heavier.
i agree. cro cop is kind of the same
cro cop should have been fighting at 205 for his career...he just hated cutting weight
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:57 am to Palm Beach Tiger
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some of those fights were fricking embarrassing shite like the fight with that 7ft Asian guy.
pride loved its freak show fights
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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i agree. cro cop is kind of the same
cro cop should have been fighting at 205 for his career...he just hated cutting weight
WTF Cro cop could have never made 205.
Posted on 6/23/13 at 11:59 am to Shoulderchoke
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Lol@ Arlovski "winning" for 3 min of a 25 min fight, then absolutely get decimated with a bomb and not making it out of the 1st.
Only brought that up to point out AA got caught. Just like Fedor did against Hendo.
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