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re: Who is the greatest fighter of all-time? (Anderson Silva or Fedor Emelianenko)
Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:55 pm to VerlanderBEAST
Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:55 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Coleman was at the end of his career and went 1-2 in his next 3 fights. Hunt lost 6 fights in a row and 4 after fedor beat him. Arlovski lost his next 3 after his fedor fight. Apparently they were a bit overrated.
I know I'll probably be in the minority here, but I believe a prime fedor would get tooled by Cain or JDS.
Yes they were at the end of their careers, has nothing to do with them being among the 7 or so best heayweights in the world when they fought Fedor.
Also Pride rules Fedor beats both Cain and JDS by armbar
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But, any fedor fan with half a brain will admit that he didn't fight anyone for a long time while he was considered the greatest.
You keep saying this but you fail to say what "long time" it was when he didn't fight anyone?
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Posted on 6/24/13 at 12:57 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Fedor was the greatest. I don't think anyone will dispute that. But, any fedor fan with half a brain will admit that he didn't fight anyone for a long time while he was considered the greatest.
I agree in part. The best guys Fedor could have fought but didn't were Barnett and Overreem. The Barnett fight would have been awesome. They were the consensus #1 and #2 HW in the world at the time when Barnett tested positive.
The best the UFC could offer at the time was Couture or Lesnar. I know you love Couture, but fedor would have destroyed him. I really wanted to see the fight, but Couture would have been dominated. I don't care how good of a gameplanner Couture is, Fedor was two well rounded and better on his feet and on the ground. The fight stays standing up, Couture gets KO'd. It goes to the groud, he likely gets subbed, but if not he gets pouned out.
Lesnar did not have the experience or gas tank to win. Fedor was a better striker and way to experienced with submissions for Lesnar to win. There is a chance Lesnar may have gotten on top of him and controlled him, but more likely he doesn't.
Fedor had about a three year stretch where I admit he did not face top competition. But the top competition was Barnett and Reem, not Lesnar or Couture.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:02 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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The best the UFC could offer at the time was Couture or Lesnar. I know you love Couture, but fedor would have destroyed him.
I never said Randy would beat him in this thread. I said they never fought. That would have been the biggest HW fight that decade probably and it never happened. Personally, I think it was closer then you say. To me Randy might have pulled that off in a UFC cage. But that is just it, we will never know. I said earlier that Barnett was the real match up that never happened. But I would guess a lot of the average fans don't even know that.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:05 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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You keep saying this but you fail to say what "long time" it was when he didn't fight anyone?
Everyone has pointed it out. From 2005 to 2010 if you count his last fight against Cro Cop as a top match up. Which of coarse it was at the time. I am done arguing with you about it though.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:08 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Personally, I think it was closer then you say. To me Randy might have pulled that off in a UFC cage.
Couture's dirty boxing in the clinch would have been the only chance he had in the fight IMO. And I just don't think it would be enough.
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I said earlier that Barnett was the real match up that never happened. But I would guess a lot of the average fans don't even know that.
That fight was going to happen in Anaheim CA and I was going to it. I was extremely stoked. Barnett really pissed me off. Especially with the timing RIGHT before the fight. Totally got fricked with that.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:17 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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Also Pride rules Fedor beats both Cain and JDS by armbar.
Unless he's pulling a standing armbar, he isn't getting either to the ground.
Posted on 6/24/13 at 1:48 pm to Palm Beach Tiger
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Everyone has pointed it out. From 2005 to 2010 if you count his last fight against Cro Cop as a top match up. Which of coarse it was at the time. I am done arguing with you about it though.
Well you are wrong. He fought plenty of top guys you just refuse to acknowledge it.
Posted on 7/8/13 at 12:35 pm to VerlanderBEAST
I think it's only fair to re-open this thread. Anyone switching back to Fedor on this subject with the way Anderson performed in the Sonnen, Maia, & Weidman fights? Obviously he won 3 of those 4 and his dominance against Okami, Bonnar, & Vitor cannot be omitted if we're looking at those other 4 performances.....
Posted on 7/8/13 at 12:41 pm to UFownstSECsince1950
I will say at least Fedor tried to win all of his fights.
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