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re: Who is now considered the best living baseball great?
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:17 pm to AwesomeSauce
Posted on 6/20/24 at 1:17 pm to AwesomeSauce
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Was a .288 hitter with 374 HRS, 1,094 RBIs and 417 SB to go along with 3 MVPs, 7 Gold Gloves, 7 Silver Sluggers, 7 All Stars...
Bonds had HOF numbers and was first ballot without roids. His offensive numbers from 98 on (some say 98, some say 99, but I just went with 98) is otherworldly. From 1998-2004 there was not a more feared hitter. His numbers post and during the steroids were otherworldly, but he is a HOF and was the best player in baseball before steroids.
The roids inflated the numbers, but didn't make an average player great. They made a great player greater in an era where the playing field was actually the same. If everyone is cheating, no one really has a tremendous advantage.
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Posted on 6/20/24 at 2:41 pm to Rouge
Luis Aparicio, 90 (April 29, 1934)
Bud Selig, 89 (July 30, 1934)
Sandy Koufax, 88 (Dec. 30, 1935)
Bill Mazeroski, 87 (Sept. 5, 1936)
Pat Gillick, 86 (Aug. 22, 1937)
Orlando Cepeda, 86 (Sept. 17, 1937)
Juan Marichal, 86 (Oct. 20, 1937)
Billy Williams, 86 (June 15, 1938)
Tony Oliva, 85 (July 20, 1938)
Jim Katt, 85 (Nov. 7, 1938)
This is the the list of the oldest living HOF members. Out of this list, I would have to say Koufax is the biggest living legend. Luis Aparicio was a damn good player, but Koufax’s peak was as good as any pitcher ever. I talked to a dude in my hometown that was in Dodgers minor leagues with Koufax… he said baseballs looked like aspirins coming at a batter when Koufax let it loose.
Bud Selig, 89 (July 30, 1934)
Sandy Koufax, 88 (Dec. 30, 1935)
Bill Mazeroski, 87 (Sept. 5, 1936)
Pat Gillick, 86 (Aug. 22, 1937)
Orlando Cepeda, 86 (Sept. 17, 1937)
Juan Marichal, 86 (Oct. 20, 1937)
Billy Williams, 86 (June 15, 1938)
Tony Oliva, 85 (July 20, 1938)
Jim Katt, 85 (Nov. 7, 1938)
This is the the list of the oldest living HOF members. Out of this list, I would have to say Koufax is the biggest living legend. Luis Aparicio was a damn good player, but Koufax’s peak was as good as any pitcher ever. I talked to a dude in my hometown that was in Dodgers minor leagues with Koufax… he said baseballs looked like aspirins coming at a batter when Koufax let it loose.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 4:18 pm to bamameister
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Seriously, in the history of pro sports, who has a more corrupt Commish than one Robert D. Manfred, Jr? What a freakin joke of a human being.
Manfred doesn’t dictate who makes the HoF. That’s on the baseball writers.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:25 pm to Rouge
Quite a few Pete Rose haters up in here. Claiming he was just a slap-hitter and then nominating Ichiro?
Huh?
Bonds could throw a baby into a Well and this board would still be in love with his fat head....well as long as that baby wasn't Sid Bream....then he couldn't throw it into the Well.
There's more to baseball than hitting juiced bombs.....Is Dave Kingman the second greatest living player now?
Huh?
Bonds could throw a baby into a Well and this board would still be in love with his fat head....well as long as that baby wasn't Sid Bream....then he couldn't throw it into the Well.
There's more to baseball than hitting juiced bombs.....Is Dave Kingman the second greatest living player now?
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:31 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:40 pm to JerryTheKingBawler
It’s easily Bonds
But the uneducated masses would lonely say Jr or Jeter
The boomers would say Koufax
All great players but not Bonds
But the uneducated masses would lonely say Jr or Jeter
The boomers would say Koufax
All great players but not Bonds
Posted on 6/20/24 at 7:41 pm to Rouge
Barry Bonds was the greatest living player a week ago while Willie Mays was still alive. In fact, sometime in 2002, Bonds became the best player of all time, and will be the "best living baseball great" until the day he dies. Maybe even longer. He was that good.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:09 pm to Rouge
If we’re talking 5 tool player like Mays, then you gotta go Griffey Jr or ARod.
Bonds is best living hitter.
Bonds is best living hitter.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 8:11 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:11 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
Bonds was a good defender before he got huge, but his arm wasn't great.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 8:15 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Yea I just looked it up. 8 gold gloves is nothing to sneeze at.
He was like 2 different players, pre-roids he was stil incredible but a base stealer, and good in the field. Then he blew up and became a totally different player hitting bombs and walking a ton.
He was like 2 different players, pre-roids he was stil incredible but a base stealer, and good in the field. Then he blew up and became a totally different player hitting bombs and walking a ton.
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:35 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
I never knew this board was full of Bonds fans. His steroid use bumps him below Griffey for me. I would say the same for ARod.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Pete Rose
Probably not even in the top ten
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:52 pm to D011ahbi11
Definitely not even in the top ten
Posted on 6/20/24 at 9:52 pm to Rouge
Pujols.
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:03 pm to UltimateHog
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:06 pm to Rouge
It's tough to give a pitcher this title as I think it has to be an everyday player, but I understand. Plus, how do you choose between Koufax, Pedro, Clemons, Randy, Nolan, Maddox, etc.?
The top 5 living players IMO are:
Johnny Bench
Bonds
Griffey Jr.
Rickey Henderson
Schmidt
The greatest is Barry Bonds
The top 5 living players IMO are:
Johnny Bench
Bonds
Griffey Jr.
Rickey Henderson
Schmidt
The greatest is Barry Bonds
This post was edited on 6/20/24 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:15 pm to Rouge
Barry bonds easily
Posted on 6/20/24 at 10:45 pm to ATCTx
Griffey
Henderson
Bonds
Bench
Schmidt
Henderson
Bonds
Bench
Schmidt
Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:23 am to Rouge
An argument can be made for either Barry or Rose. You really can't go wrong w/either IMO.
I think Barry holds the title now
I think Barry holds the title now
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 5:51 am
Posted on 6/21/24 at 5:36 am to Undertow
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Agreed. For the majority of their careers, which ran largely concurrently, Griffey was widely considered the better player. Their older years were polar opposites though. Griffey was injury plagued while Bonds went ham.
I'm as big a Griffey guy as there is but this just isn't true. Griffey and Bonds were considered the bar in their day but Bonds was universally considered the best player in baseball in Pittsburgh. Dude should've won 4-5 consecutive MVPs. Pendleton, the Braves love and Bonds hate are all that stopped it. Griffey was just more popular and likable. Who would you promote if MLB?
The steroids made Bonds without question the most feared and best hitter anyone's ever seen. Even Greg Maddux, the professionals professional says so. Fans care about steroids. The players that played in the era don't. Even the ones who didn't partake. Their teammates did.
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 5:39 am
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