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What’s the reasoning behind “hands to the face” resulting in an automatic first down?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:18 pm
Seems like if it’s 3rd and 20 and the defense commits the penalty, it shouldn’t just automatically give the offense a first down imo.
Anyone have a good explanation for the thought process behind it?
I also find it redundant when the ref says “illegal use of hands, hands to the face”. Just drop one of the “hands”.
Anyone have a good explanation for the thought process behind it?
I also find it redundant when the ref says “illegal use of hands, hands to the face”. Just drop one of the “hands”.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:19 pm to Melvin
No penalty should be an automatic 1st down. If the yardage gives a first down, then so be it.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:19 pm to Melvin
To stop people from putting their hands into peoples faces
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:20 pm to GEAUXT
Automatic first down penalties are so stupid
Where the hell are the automatic 4th down penalties?
Where the hell are the automatic 4th down penalties?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:20 pm to Melvin
To keep things from escalating to last Thursday levels on a consistent basis.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:23 pm to wildtigercat93
quote:Yeah that’s clearly what I’m asking
To stop people from putting their hands into peoples faces
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:25 pm to GEAUXT
quote:
No penalty should be an automatic 1st down. If the yardage gives a first down, then so be it.
If this rule didn’t apply, DB’s would just grab WR’s off the line if they got beat
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:28 pm to lsupride87
quote:Defensive holding I could at least somewhat understand to stop players from just grabbing when they get beat off the line. But if it’s 3rd and 20 defensive players aren’t going to just start saying frick it I’m going to blatantly put my hands in the lineman’s face and move them up 5 yards. I just don’t think the difference that an automatic first down creates in the game is necessary.
Automatic first down penalties are so stupid Where the hell are the automatic 4th down penalties?
ETA: in regards to the hands to the face
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:29 pm to The Pirate King
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If this rule didn’t apply, DB’s would just grab WR’s off the line if they got beat
Yet somehow CFB works just fine...
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:37 pm to slackster
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quote:
If this rule didn’t apply, DB’s would just grab WR’s off the line if they got beat
Yet somehow CFB works just fine..
CFB PI is an automatic first down..
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:40 pm to The Pirate King
quote:
If this rule didn’t apply, DB’s would just grab WR’s off the line if they got beat
If offensive holding 10 yards with loss of down, people wouldn't intentionally hold the DE in an obvious sack situation.
Wait, what?
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:42 pm to Lester Earl
I’m not questioning why it’s a flag, I’m wondering why it warrants an automatic first down? If it’s simply to deter players from committing the penalty I feel that it’s too drastic.
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:42 pm to Lester Earl
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It’s a safety thing
Why isn't offensive hands to the face a loss of down?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 9:47 pm to Melvin
The other thing that baffles me is offsetting penalties when one is 15 yards and the other is 5 or 10.
Why not just give the difference and call it a day?
Why kill both?
Why not just give the difference and call it a day?
Why kill both?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:03 pm to Lester Earl
Because safety matters
Are you arguing it doesn't?
Are you arguing it doesn't?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:15 pm to Lou Pai
Offensive hands to the face is a penalty.
Derp
Derp
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:42 pm to Lester Earl
But it doesn’t result in a loss of down. Which is basically the point of this thread and doesn’t really make the safety aspect a legit reason. Seems skewed towards the offense for the same penalty. Why not just make it a 10 yard penalty both ways?
Posted on 11/18/19 at 10:47 pm to Melvin
The NFL doesn’t care about making common sense rules or changes. The penalties are designed to drastically help the offense bc they care about scoring more than anything else. The NFL wants every game to be 45-42.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 10:48 pm
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