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re: What the Tiger Woods situation has taught me...

Posted on 3/8/12 at 12:23 am to
Posted by Ford Frenzy
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 12:23 am to
In golf it's 1 vs 100+....if Tiger goes 99-1 any given week, nobody considers that a win...there lies your misconception
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
109066 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 2:35 am to
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shite she doesnt even remember how you played yesterday, she's a bitch
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33805 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 6:45 am to
a lot of people forget that he missed a ton of time with injuries also. he sat out 2 months in 2008 prior to winning the U.S. Open on a broken leg. Then sat out 9 straight months recovering until March 2009. He then proceeded to win 6 events in 2009 after a 9 month layoff and finished top 25 16/17 tourneys that year. Sat out 5 months after the scandal broke in November of 2009. another 2 months from August 2011 - October 2011, and another 2 months from December 2011 - February 2012.

Heck, in the last 48 months, Tiger has missed 20 months of playing golf. And, he's won 10 events during that time frame, 1 Major, finished 2nd in the Masters and PGA Championship, finished 4th in the Masters twice and the U.S. Open once, and finished 6th in the Masters and U.S. Open.

There's not many professional golfers who could be very competitive if they sat out for 20/48 months during a 4 year stretch. What Tiger has done has been extremely impressive. All while battling injuries and stupid personal decisions.
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:07 am to
If you want to talk about coming back from injuries...Tiger can't come close to Ben Hogan.



Hogan's heroism saved his wife from serious injury and probably saved his life as well. On Feb. 2, 1949, in the countryside outside Van Horn, Texas, about 150 miles east of El Paso, Hogan's car was smashed into a mass of twisted metal when a Greyhound bus, swinging out to pass a truck, met Hogan's car head on. The impact drove the engine into the driver's seat, the steering wheel into the back seat. While Valerie Hogan received only minor injuries, Hogan suffered a broken collarbone, a smashed rib, a double fracture of the pelvis and a broken ankle.

After his bones were set in an El Paso hospital, it looked as if Hogan would be OK. But then he developed a blood clot, and doctors performed an abdominal operation and tied off the principal veins in his legs, preventing the clot from reaching his heart.

Sixteen months after the near-fatal accident, Hogan won the U.S. Open at Merion in Pennsylvania. His remarkable 1-iron shot on the difficult final hole forced a playoff, which he captured the next day by shooting a brilliant 69 to beat Lloyd Mangrum and George Fazio. The Hawk, who had been the best golfer in the world when the accident occurred, had regained his throne.

Posted by threeputt
God's Country
Member since Sep 2008
24815 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:09 am to
Tiger was done winning majors before his injuries and his personal trials and tribulations.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:19 am to
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You can't muscle through it like Jordan could with basketball. Jordans shots didn't fall? frick it. Drive to the hole and dunk or use his basketball IQ and run decoy and distribute. None of which applies to golf.


what the frick did i just read?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162969 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:33 am to
I think people overrate the scandal's effect on him and underrate the fact that perhaps his skills are just diminishing and the field is getting more and more talented
Posted by nugget
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 3/8/12 at 7:40 am to
Anyone that can shoot 62 at PGA Nat. with Sunday pins doesnt have diminishing skills. The hardest thing about a swing change is putting pressure on it and not reverting to what you knew best in the past.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9592 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:39 am to
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Golf is way harder than baseball. First of all nobody who is competent in baseball is actually scared of getting hit in the face.
And while obviously hitting a golf ball is easier than hitting a moving baseball, hitting a golf ball as is required to be an effective golfer is much harder. Jack once said that if he hit 3 shots exactly the way he wanted then he had a pretty good round


I played baseball in Little League and grew up playing junior golf tournaments and would totally agree with this. In baseball you are trying to hit a moving ball which isn't easy but you have a large field of play in which to hit the ball. The margin for error in golf (especially at the pro level) is tiny. Not only do you have to hit it straight, you have to have amazing distance control. Throw wind into the equation and it's even more difficult. The actually process of hitting a golf ball is difficult too. The timing is magnified as just being millimeters off with your driver and barely off with your timing can send the ball way off target considering the ball is going nearly 300 yards out. That doesn't even take putting and short game into account either. I found basketball and basketball to be quite a bit easier than golf growing up.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27822 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:41 am to
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After his bones were set in an El Paso hospital, it looked as if Hogan would be OK. But then he developed a blood clot, and doctors performed an abdominal operation and tied off the principal veins in his legs, preventing the clot from reaching his heart.


That is old school right there.
Posted by Dark Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4494 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:43 am to
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hitting out of a shitty lie


"Course under repair" rule....just roll it around with club head
This post was edited on 3/8/12 at 8:48 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27822 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 8:49 am to
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Lol, wut?


Yes?

Can't distribute to your team mates in golf. Can't say, "frick it. I am just going to kill the ball and see what happens." Which I find similar to driving the lane and trying to dunk over everyones head which Jordan could still do in the mid late 90's if he had to.

And if you don't think putting can be completely mental then I cannot even argue with you. There is a pepper shaker sitting next to my laptop giving me the stinkeye. My time will be better served arguing with it.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
33805 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 10:02 am to
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Tiger was done winning majors before his injuries and his personal trials and tribulations.

Of course, he didn't win the U.S. Open on a broken leg and torn ACL.

Tiger's gonna win at least 5 more majors before he's done.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112939 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 10:23 am to
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When Jordan came back from baseball took him like 2 weeks to get back to playing like Jordan
Didn't he shoot like 41% or something that final month or so he played?
Posted by VegasPro
Vegas
Member since Aug 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 10:38 am to
It is almost like Tiger is getting his bad variance. I remember when he was dominant. Balls would skip through bunkers. Stop on downhills before water. Lip every putt in. Now his balls are burying n the bunker, getting close to lips in bunker, lipping out, and falling into hazards. Golf has a luck factor and when he was playing great, his luck factor was very high.
Posted by VegasPro
Vegas
Member since Aug 2011
2706 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 10:41 am to
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Anyone that can shoot 62 at PGA Nat. with Sunday pins doesnt have diminishing skills. The hardest thing about a swing change is putting pressure on it and not reverting to what you knew best in the past.



Was a great round but if he was off a tad, it would have been 70's round. He fired at every pin and just hit some unreal shots like 18 approach. It was one of the Phil Mickelson go for broke rounds.
Posted by Kingwood Tiger
Katy, TX
Member since Jul 2005
14162 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 10:58 am to
The swing isn't what is hurting Tiger, it is his putting....he has gotten progressively worse, and that will result in being his downfall.
Posted by texastiger38
Member since Sep 2007
28956 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 11:03 am to
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The swing isn't what is hurting Tiger, it is his putting....he has gotten progressively worse, and that will result in being his downfall.


The swing was hurting him when he first started the swing change. He is hitting the ball tee to green maybe better than he ever has. The putting has been awful yes, been he putted pretty well last week save for the 1st round.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
22004 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 11:11 am to
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And while obviously hitting a golf ball is easier than hitting a moving baseball, hitting a golf ball as is required to be an effective golfer is much harder. Jack once said that if he hit 3 shots exactly the way he wanted then he had a pretty good round


Baseball and Golf were the two sports that I played growing up as well. I still play golf a lot. I couldn't disagree more that golf is harder than baseball. You can't compare junior golf to little league baseball. Compare hitting a baseball thrown by a professional to playing a professional golf tournament. If I played a PGA course set up as the pros play it, I'm fairly confident that I could make a few pars. I don't think I could get a legitimate base hit off an MLB pitcher if I stood there all day. I think the act of hitting a baseball pitched by a professional is grossly under rated.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
117726 posts
Posted on 3/8/12 at 11:55 am to
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So Tiger was whoring around = lost reps = and was better?

Uh, he's not better. He's much worse.
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