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re: What the hell is the deal with all the achilles tears in the NFL? UPDATE up to 11
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:01 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:01 am to theunknownknight
Over worked? They practice much less than ever before.
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 7:50 am to Big4SALTbro
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Over worked? They practice much less than ever before.
So do me and your mom, doesn't mean I don't catch a cramp mid-stroke sometimes still
Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:36 am to RemouladeSawce
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on average in the Nfl there is 2 Achilles tears the entire season
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Nah. The 49ers alone have had 28 ACL tears since 2013
Not only are you not a doctor but you also didn’t stay at a holiday inn express last night
Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:36 am to lsupride87
I would guess it’s an overuse injury. Players are practicing less and less and the ramp up from off season to regular season is shorter and less intense. They are getting injured because that ramp is too steep. It’s causing the uncommon to become common
Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:38 am to trussthetruzz
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turf
I hope they find out this is in fact the case so they can require everyone to play on grass in some form.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 8:40 am to lsupride87
I've noticed a good bit of hamstring injuries too
Posted on 10/30/23 at 9:11 am to lsupride87
athletes continue to get bigger and stronger. I think being stronger can be a detriment to their own bodies at times.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 9:23 am to Chad504boy
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athletes continue to get bigger and stronger. I think being stronger can be a detriment to their own bodies at times.
Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins aren't really the beacons of bigger and stronger, but I agree with the premise.
IMO, sports strength and conditioning is overly focused on getting bigger, faster, stronger and not on being balanced and preventing injury.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:15 am to Big4SALTbro
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Over worked? They practice much less than ever before.
Maybe that’s the problem. Also, maybe they’re doing too much “functional training” and too little strength training.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 10:16 am
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:18 am to rintintin
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IMO, sports strength and conditioning is overly focused on getting bigger, faster, stronger and not on being balanced and preventing injury.
Since this is your opinion, can you explain how one can train to prevent injury? And what do you mean by “being balanced”? Do you think these guys have relatively poor balance or is it that their left and right sides aren’t equivalent, or what?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:23 am to Earnest_P
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And what do you mean by “being balanced”?
I could be wrong, but I think this is what he was trying to convey:
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The non-contact injuries in football are due to improper movement patterns. When non-contact related injuries occur, it’s because the athlete put themselves in a poor biomechanical position that led to the injury. For instance, when a football player sets their feet in a bad position during change-of-direction or lands awkwardly with the knee buckling inward, this may lead to injury.
Ultimately, injury prevention in football comes down to proper recovery and implementation of a training program that appropriately stresses the body. Teaching foundational movement patterns should be a staple in all football training programs. Implementing protocols that focus on proper cutting, jumping, landing mechanics and lifting technique are excellent ways to enhance athletic performance and prevent injury.
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Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:25 am to lsupride87
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on average in the Nfl there is 2 Achilles tears the entire season
On average is the key phrase. Some years 4-5 and some years 1 or 0. Cousins did it on grass. Aaron did it on turf. Can't draw too many conclusions.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:30 am to lsupride87
quote:Can you post the numbers year by year?
on average in the Nfl there is 2 Achilles tears the entire season
Posted on 10/30/23 at 10:31 am to faraway
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you know kobe did the same right?
I wonder if the Lakers have any regret repairing Kobe's achilles considering he doesn't have it anymore.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 11:07 am to IAmNERD
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The non-contact injuries in football are due to improper movement patterns. When non-contact related injuries occur, it’s because the athlete put themselves in a poor biomechanical position that led to the injury. For instance, when a football player sets their feet in a bad position during change-of-direction or lands awkwardly with the knee buckling inward, this may lead to injury.
The problem with this theory is that you’d have to see an increase in injury rates as a reduction in the ability of athletes to avoid poor biomechanical positions. You’d have to say that something had changed and athletes are now more clumsy, less agile, less inherently able to manage their body in space. I think that’s obviously questionable.
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Ultimately, injury prevention in football comes down to proper recovery and implementation of a training program that appropriately stresses the body. Teaching foundational movement patterns should be a staple in all football training programs. Implementing protocols that focus on proper cutting, jumping, landing mechanics and lifting technique are excellent ways to enhance athletic performance and prevent injury.
I’m sorry, I just don’t buy that the best athletes in the world are unable to cut, jump, and land efficiently and need “foundational movement” training.
The NFL naturally selects for people that are the best of the best at foundational movement. Now they want to spend their limited training time teaching them how to land from a jump or accelerate away from a defender?
Posted on 10/30/23 at 12:16 pm to theunknownknight
Overworked? Lmfao
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:08 pm to Earnest_P
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I’m sorry, I just don’t buy that the best athletes in the world are unable to cut, jump, and land efficiently and need “foundational movement” training.
They have been training to do this for the most part their entire lives. It's not too big of a jump to make that if they happen to do it improperly (you know with other elite athletes flying around or they get knocked off platform) they can get hurt. They do drill every single day to make sure they have the muscle memory to make certain moves out of certain positions.
You think they do stuff like cone drills as a RB just to make sure who can do it the fastest? No, they have techniques to cut while staying low and balanced. You think DBs have hip drills every day so they know which way to open their hips?
Kinesiology my friend.
This post was edited on 10/30/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:27 pm to lsupride87
There have actually been cases where common documented side effects of new super-antibiotics were ruptured tendons and achilles.
Look up Levaquin. Lots of people took that medication and hopped out of bed a week later and both of their achilles exploded. Or they needed Tommy John surgery because they reached into the fridge for a jar of mustard.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 1:42 pm to AUFANATL
It’s probably the most serious injury for any athlete that use their feet. I saw Cousins POP. Took me aback a bit.
Posted on 10/30/23 at 2:21 pm to Earnest_P
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Since this is your opinion, can you explain how one can train to prevent injury?
I'm no expert, but stuff like mobility, flexibility and recovery. I would say those items are further down the list on most S&C programs than power, strength and speed.
And I don't mean balance in the literal sense, more in the point above. Balancing strength and speed with mobility and flexibility.
Again, it's a theory and I don't claim to be an expert but from my limited perspective from studying Kinesiology and being around various sports training establishments, there's still alot to learn about athletic development.
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