Started By
Message

re: What kept Steve Spurrier from winning more than 1 national title at Florida?

Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:06 pm to
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12687 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

In the 90s, Miami won one and played for another. FSU in 1993. Nebraska had the next two then Florida got theirs. Then Tennessee and FSU again. So two teams in their state, one in their division, and another from their conference won it all during his time. Throw in Frazier and Nebraska in the middle of it all.


I love how Tennessee casually snuck a title in during the middle of Nebraska FSU Miami and UF’s run. Boom in and peace out.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73748 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:07 pm to
He says

quote:

They played like shite, which wasn’t uncommon against good backs in the Spurrier era


Florida held teams to under 100ypg rushing in a season 6 times in the 1990s playing in the SEC. FSU, a team he lauds as a true elite did it 7 times vs ACC competition.
This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 4:10 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
73748 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

They played like shite, which wasn’t uncommon against good backs in the Spurrier era - especially outside the Stoops years.


Ok now let’s take Mickey Andrews and Mark Richt away from Bowden and compare.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

I'm talking about the SEC.

Not sure why. The original statement referred to the national level.
quote:

Florida held teams to under 100ypg rushing in a season 6 times in the 1990s playing in the SEC. FSU, a team he lauds as a true elite did it 7 times vs ACC competition.

Was Florida a more successful or “feared” program than FSU in the ‘90s?

Can I get a yes or no on that and the reasons?
Posted by vengeanceofbrain
Member since Apr 2026
278 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:45 pm to
Bc Spurrier was a bitch. Loved seeing him get smacked in the mouth in the NFL. Quit like a bitch in the middle of the season at SCAR too
Posted by ZZTOP
Member since Jul 2026
147 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 4:47 pm to
The Golf Course & Horrible Defenses
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71777 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

Was Florida a more successful or “feared” program than FSU in the ‘90s?



That depends on who you're asking.

As an Alabama fan, I feared Florida more than I feared Florida State in the 90s because we played them just about every year that decade.

1990: Loss
1991: Loss
1992: Win
1993: Loss
1994: Loss
1995: Didn't Play
1996: Loss
1997: Didn't Play
1998: Loss
1999: Win (x2)

We finished 3-6 against Spurrier and the Florida Gators in our nine games against them. Florida State wasn't as scary because they weren't in our conference.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141664 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

What kept Steve Spurrier from winning more than 1 national title at Florida?


Other teams
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 7:28 pm to
quote:

Florida State wasn't as scary because they weren't in our conference.


Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71777 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 8:20 pm to
It's a good thing your opinion is one of one. Why should I have feared Florida State as an Alabama fan in the 1990s? It's not like we were playing the same sport. Florida State was in a different conference and was such a vastly superior program, the only way we'd ever meet them was in the national championship or in a prestigious New Years Day bowl game. And the only way Alabama would ever get to either one of those games was by getting past Florida in the SEC Championship Game - something we only did twice in five attempts (six if you count 1991 where they were our only loss of the season).

So yes, for that very reason Florida was the scarier team for me and many other Alabama fans, even if they weren't on the same level as Florida State's football program.
This post was edited on 7/29/26 at 8:21 pm
Posted by HangmanPage1
Wild West
Member since Aug 2021
2288 posts
Posted on 7/29/26 at 8:40 pm to
In 1997 he ran into DiNardo and Herb Tyler running the option baby!!!!
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
21474 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:43 am to
A. Set of nuts
B. He’s not that good
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 7:52 am to
quote:

Why should I have feared Florida State as an Alabama fan in the 1990s?

Because we’re obviously talking national level football, not any one program or conference’s bogeyman.

UF did not have the most successful program of the ‘90s nor did they have a reputation for knocking opponents around physically.

I like to give detailed reasons for why I believe what I do, and that often requires criticism of teams, players, and coaches that are otherwise quite good - just not flawless.

UF had a great program in the ‘90s, but were they the most feared program in the nation during that era?

Negative.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78791 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 8:24 am to
quote:

but were they the most feared program in the nation during that era?


In the SEC. Yes. Nationally, no but definitely in the top 10 consistently as most feared you could even argue top 5.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
5332 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 8:31 am to
The 90’s were a great time for parity in college football. Teams were elite at every corner of the US:

Nebraska
Miami
FSU
Florida
Michigan
Penn State
Ohio State
Notre Dame
Colorado
Washington
Virginia Tech
Kansas State
Alabama
Auburn
Tennessee
This post was edited on 7/30/26 at 8:32 am
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 9:26 am to
quote:

In the SEC. Yes. Nationally, no

I feel like someone said, “One World Trade Center is the tallest building in the world.”

And I said, “No, it’s the Burj Khalifa.”

And then it was said, “Well, the Burj Khalifa may be the tallest building in the world, but One World Trade Center is the tallest in the United States. You’re just a hater.”

*Face palm.”
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

The 90’s were a great time for parity in college football.

That’s because the top teams hoarded less of the talent:

This is the draft results for the final AP Top Ten from 1990-1999:

First Round / Top 100 / Total (Top 10)

1990: 9 / 25 / 46 (4)
1991: 6 / 20 / 38 (3)
1992: 12 / 33 / 47 (6)
1993: 9 / 24 / 47 (3)
1994: 12 / 29 / 58 (5)
1995: 4 / 14 / 36 (2)
1996: 11 / 30 / 52 (6)
1997: 17 / 34 / 52 (7)
1998: 9 / 24 / 46 (2)
1999: 12 / 33 / 53 (4)

And every season starting with 2019:

2019: 20 / 45 / 72 (9)
2020: 12 / 33 / 60 (4)
2021: 13 / 32 / 64 (5)
2022: 13 / 34 / 59 (6)
2023: 15 / 45 / 83 (5)
2024: 16 / 33 / 69 (3)
2025: 18 / 47 / 80 (7)

Top ten teams in recent seasons are getting about 50% more NFL level talent on average than in the ‘90s. The difference is even greater in the last few years with 80+ selections. That more than doubles some years in the ‘90s.

Fewer studs are being passed around to everyone.
Posted by LSUFanMizeWay
Picayune MS
Member since Sep 2014
6769 posts
Posted on 7/30/26 at 1:40 pm to
Curley Hallman
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
6539 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 9:52 am to
quote:

Florida was feared in the 1990's


Yes, they were. Not sure what Globetrotter is going on and on about. Florida might not have been the MOST feared, but they were top three every year. For sure the most feared in the SEC. I think only Vandy played them within one score in SEC play between 95 and 96. Florida will strike fear in opponents again with Sumrall.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5924 posts
Posted on 7/31/26 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

Yes, they were. Not sure what Globetrotter is going on and on about. Florida might not have been the MOST feared, but they were top three every year.

Jesus Christ.

What the frick did the person say? He said the most feared program in the country. Not top ten. Not top three. The most feared program.

I gave reasons why I don’t believe that’s true - mainly that at least two other programs in the ‘90s (FSU and Nebraska) were more successful and had a higher level of physicality that plays even more into the fear angle.

If someone says Peyton Manning is the GOAT QB, and you explain why you think he comes up short against Brady or Montana or whoever, that doesn’t mean you think Manning was a bumbling idiot who was lucky just to be in the league.

Damn.
first pageprev pagePage 7 of 8Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram