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re: What is the solutions to the age issue identified by Malcolm Gladwell?
Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:29 pm to Tiger1242
Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:29 pm to Tiger1242
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now you are getting it, I think you’d be surprised to know how often this happens. You ever seen a great team like that and wonder why there is a kid or two that doesn’t seem to be nearly as good and never plays? That’s why, and unless you are someone who is in charge of the finances of the team, you have no idea, even the kid himself or maybe the coach probably has no idea.
i know it happens but dude do you understand statistics and percentages?
you understand how rare that is right?
you do understand how few true national teams that dont practice together right? in terms of percentage of travel team
if so, why are you trying to use them as an example?
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Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:42 pm to TexasTiger08
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At the end of the day, it doesn’t matter. Talent prevails in most HS programs, and these tactics won’t make any difference beyond that.
Ehh not so sure about that across the board. I’ve seen plenty of younger talented kids kind of disregarded at my kids soccer club because they’re just basically a year younger/slower/smaller.
Good institutions pick up on it but at younger ages they often just wash out because there are older kids who look the part more get all the attention and they’re left with the substandard coaching/attention/etc and it’s hard for the early “haves” to lose their spots for better or worse.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:53 pm to lsu777
I’m not really trying to use them as an example you got me off my own topic. I’ll admit that. 
Getting back to the point of my OP. Statistically kids who are on the older end of age cutoffs have a better chance of playing sports in high school and beyond because they get more attention and recognition as youth players. Not sure what can be done about it, but it’s one of those interesting phenomenon.
Getting back to the point of my OP. Statistically kids who are on the older end of age cutoffs have a better chance of playing sports in high school and beyond because they get more attention and recognition as youth players. Not sure what can be done about it, but it’s one of those interesting phenomenon.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:54 pm to Tiger1242
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What is the solutions to the age issue identified by Malcolm Gladwell?
Split children's leagues into half year leagues. 6/30 is the cutoff and you don't combine the leagues until the kids reach a certain age like 12.
If you are born 6/30 you are the youngest in the older group and if you are 7/1 oldest in the younger group
Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:56 pm to Tiger1242
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I’m not really trying to use them as an example you got me off my own topic. I’ll admit that.
sorry i tend to do that
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Getting back to the point of my OP. Statistically kids who are on the older end of age cutoffs have a better chance of playing sports in high school and beyond because they get more attention and recognition as youth players. Not sure what can be done about it, but it’s one of those interesting phenomenon.
yea i dunno what could be done. I mean to a certain extent with the shift to a club format along with the rec format, you kind of have the an inflection pount where the younger kids who are not developed tend to be more in the rec leagues
problem is two fold though with that...yes they get more development and joy from getting to play more and better positions and being one of the better players but it also gives them and the parents a false sense of where they are overall which may tend to lead to not seeking out better coaching, not working as hard etc.
not sure how you can really do anything about it.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 1:57 pm to lsu777
My experience is with softball bc of my daughter but I’m sure it’s the same as baseball, and I’m in Texas. There are dozens and dozens of softball travel teams for kids. I’m talking 8U to 12U. Most of these kids are not special players. They’re rec league caliber. But every time I turn around some random dad of a random mediocre player is forming a travel team. Any player whose parents can pay the dues has numerous travel team options. And then the area rec leagues not only get the worst players but they get fewer players and struggle to stay afloat.
I guess this is a little off topic from the OP too except it just shows how wonky kids sports have gotten. Parents driving all over the world every weekend and spending thousands just for a class C player who will never play past 14U anyway.
quote:this is true
im sorry but the genie is out the bottle and it isnt going back in.
I guess this is a little off topic from the OP too except it just shows how wonky kids sports have gotten. Parents driving all over the world every weekend and spending thousands just for a class C player who will never play past 14U anyway.
This post was edited on 7/24/26 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 7/24/26 at 2:05 pm to grsharky
I'm interested to see how my oldest develops in sports. He's only 5, but he is gigantic for his age and he's an august birthday, so despite being larger than almost every kid in his class, including the ones who are over a year older than him, he is the youngest kid in his current grade. Looking at pictures with his class mates is hilarious with how comically big he is compared to the other kids.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 2:13 pm to Tiger1242
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You ever seen a great team like that and wonder why there is a kid or two that doesn’t seem to be nearly as good and never plays? That’s why, and unless you are someone who is in charge of the finances of the team, you have no idea, even the kid himself or maybe the coach probably has no idea.
As opposed to the kid who shouldn’t be playing but is batting third and playing shortstop because daddy pays the freight
Posted on 7/24/26 at 2:43 pm to biglego
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I guess this is a little off topic from the OP too except it just shows how wonky kids sports have gotten. Parents driving all over the world every weekend and spending thousands just for a class C player who will never play past 14U anyway.
most arent travelling that far, most less than an hour and most of those kids arent special and thats why there are different levels and they form these teams because they look around and realize the only shot at making the HS team is to play travel for the most part.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 2:45 pm to chalmetteowl
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As opposed to the kid who shouldn’t be playing but is batting third and playing shortstop because daddy pays the freight
that really only happens at AA for the most part. good teams dont give a frick, they will put you on the team but they are playing to win
but thats all off topic anyways
Posted on 7/24/26 at 2:46 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I'm interested to see how my oldest develops in sports. He's only 5, but he is gigantic for his age and he's an august birthday, so despite being larger than almost every kid in his class, including the ones who are over a year older than him, he is the youngest kid in his current grade. Looking at pictures with his class mates is hilarious with how comically big he is compared to the other kids.
so your kid is going to graduate at 17? man i would hold him back, not for sports reason but for maturity reasons when in HS. big advantage in academics and in decision making. has his whole life to work, no reason to rush it
and if he is a big time athlete it will help him, because with an august bday and the new rules of sept 1, even being held back he will be a year younger than a bunch of them.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 3:10 pm to lsu777
Yes we are holding him back and his is doing Kindergarten a second time. We were honestly surprised his school didn't tell us to hold him back in Pre-K.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:14 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I'm interested to see how my oldest develops in sports. He's only 5, but he is gigantic for his age and he's an august birthday, so despite being larger than almost every kid in his class, including the ones who are over a year older than him, he is the youngest kid in his current grade. Looking at pictures with his class mates is hilarious with how comically big he is compared to the other kids.
Based on statistics if you don’t hold him back he will never stand out and probably be an average athlete.
If you hold him back he will likely have a better chance of making it onto a high school or college team
Posted on 7/24/26 at 8:39 pm to Tiger1242
Not just athletics. My nephew was born on October 1, the cutoff date for starting school. He and a girl who was also born Oct 1, were the two oldest kids in their class. They both excelled through school, played sports, had extracurricular leadership positions and graduated as co valedictorians. The girl is in her second year of medical school.
It would be a stretch to say age had everything to do with it, but I'm pretty sure it was an advantage.
It would be a stretch to say age had everything to do with it, but I'm pretty sure it was an advantage.
Posted on 7/24/26 at 10:09 pm to Tiger1242
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Because a kid who turns 11 a week before the age cut off might spend his whole childhood thinking he’s not that good at sports
Kids should be taught adversity and that life isn’t fair at an earlier age. It’s good for their mentality and future success.
To your op, nothing can nor will be done.
I wanted a boy born in September or October for this very reason. Mission accomplished.
Second boy was born in Feb. he’s doomed, huh?
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