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re: What are some notable baseball careers that started off HOF worthy only to derail badly.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:34 am to LSU - Mill Valley CA
Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:34 am to LSU - Mill Valley CA
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There are some startling bad takes in this thread. Perhaps none worse than Lincecum. He is one of only two pitchers in MLB history to win multiple World Series Championships, win multiple Cy Young Awards, throw multiple no hitters and be elected to multiple All Star games. The other is Sandy Koufax. I suppose one could say that his career derailed after an injury 9 years later, but jeez, derailed badly?
Tim Lincecum is a perfect person for this thread. Dude was on a HOF trajectory all the way after winning the CY in his first two season and getting votes the next two... then... just wasn't effective anymore. He started walking more batters, striking out less batters, giving up more hits... he led the leage in ER allowed the following season.
Derailed badly might be a stretch, but definitely derailed and then out of the league at 32.
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 11:39 am to tigerclaws15
Here’s the whole post people are refusing to read and not comprehending that there’s more than one man that played baseball with that name
Reading is hard
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Good call on Howie One of the nicest men you will ever meet. We were so lucky to have a run of 1B at SMS
Hacker
Hart
Howie
Piazza
Reading is hard
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 11:41 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 12:50 pm to LSU - Mill Valley CA
quote:are you stupid? After starting his career off with 4 consecutive all star game appearances his ERA the next 4 year would be:
There are some startling bad takes in this thread. Perhaps none worse than Lincecum. He is one of only two pitchers in MLB history to win multiple World Series Championships, win multiple Cy Young Awards, throw multiple no hitters and be elected to multiple All Star games. The other is Sandy Koufax. I suppose one could say that his career derailed after an injury 9 years later, but jeez, derailed badly?
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:01 pm to SportsGuyNOLA
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Will Clark, Dale Murphy, and Don Mattingly have been mentioned.
None of these 3 ‘derailed badly’ and all 3 of them are Hall of Fame worthy IMHO.
Agreed. I did a double take when I saw Clark and Mattingly's names tossed around.
I'm not sure either ever ends up making the HoF, and I could argue either way with both of them, but to say their careers derailed is laughable.
One thing I didn't realize is just how strikingly similar their numbers were. Only real difference is in Gold Gloves, where Mattingly had 9 to Clark's 1. Other than that they're very similar.
Seasons
Mattingly - 14
Clark - 15
BA
Mattingly - .307
Clark - .303
Hits
Mattingly - 2,153
Clark - 2,176
HR
Mattingly - 222
Clark - 284
RBI
Mattingly - 1,099
Clark - 1,205
All Star teams
Mattingly - 6
Clark - 6
Silver Slugger
Mattingly - 3
Clark - 2
OBP
Mattingly - .354
Clark - .383
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 6:28 am
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:13 pm to Feral
That damn back ruined Mattingly
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:14 pm to 632627
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Mauer had three consecutive seasons with 30+ HRs then it seemed like he just disappeared as quickly as he came on.
Mauer had a great career, he just stopped hitting home runs and he played on bad teams that got no national attention.
Mauer never had even one 30 HR season (high of 28 in 2009 and never approached 20 HR a season in any other season). He hit for a high average, which is a plus for a catcher, but when he stopped catching, he became a first baseman/DH with no power kept on the roster only because he was a hometown boy.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:36 pm to Dr RC
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Ruben Sierra
Man not even getting into modern analytics, how fricking nuts is it to hit .306 and have a .347 OBP. He slugged .543 in 1989 and only drew 43 walks in a full 162 game season. Mike Trout has 8 walks in 6 games
Posted on 4/8/21 at 1:44 pm to texn
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He hit for a high average
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* won 3 batting titles
Posted on 4/8/21 at 3:50 pm to CelticDog
texas high school phenom.
last name David
pitched no hitter first mlb game. did not finish the season. blew arm out
You’re talking about David Clyde and he never threw a no hitter in his first game. Rangers brought him up right out of high school for attention and publicity and they ruined him.
last name David
pitched no hitter first mlb game. did not finish the season. blew arm out
You’re talking about David Clyde and he never threw a no hitter in his first game. Rangers brought him up right out of high school for attention and publicity and they ruined him.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:03 pm to Colonel Angus
Dale Murphy and Mattingly have good chances to get in at some point with the Veterans committee. I think there are less deserving players already in from that era.
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:08 pm to West Palm Tiger561
Mark "The Bird" Fidrych
and the Curious Case of Sid Finch
and the Curious Case of Sid Finch
This post was edited on 4/8/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/8/21 at 9:22 pm to Schmelly
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You’re confusing him with Julio Franco lol
Last suited up as a player for the Japanese independent team Ishikawa Million Stars in Baseball Challenge League in 2015 at age 56.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 5:49 am to West Palm Tiger561
Dick Hughes
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:05 am to West Palm Tiger561
Ken Caminiti.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:06 am to boston vol
Kerry Wood
Robinson Cano
Kenny Lofton
Robinson Cano
Kenny Lofton
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:09 am to coachbush
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Robinson Cano
Would have skated in if he weren't a moron and a cheater
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:09 am to coachbush
I'll disagree on Lofton because the dude was 27 during his best season and 4 years into the league...
Posted on 4/9/21 at 9:13 am to West Palm Tiger561
Andruw Jones had 368 home runs by the end of his age 30 season (and the last season in Atlanta). I remember being a kid and thinking this dude would challenge Hank Aaron
He had 61.0 WAR at that point as well. Finished his career at 62.7.
He was easily on track for a first ballot hall of fame career. Leaving Atlanta and toiling away in LA, NY, etc killed those chances. He should still be in, IMO but it's a long shot at this point.
He had 61.0 WAR at that point as well. Finished his career at 62.7.
He was easily on track for a first ballot hall of fame career. Leaving Atlanta and toiling away in LA, NY, etc killed those chances. He should still be in, IMO but it's a long shot at this point.
Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:05 am to VinegarStrokes
Can we add Madison Bumgarner to this list yet? Since 2016 dude has been trending downward and through 2 starts already this season he has allowed 11 runs through 9 innings. Coming off a 6.48 ERA last season
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 10:10 am to West Palm Tiger561
Austin Riley
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