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re: Watching my first NBA game of the season: holy shite it’s bad

Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:21 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:21 am to
It's just bad offense. Back in the day it was good D.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53685 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:28 am to
It's funny that league PPG was so high in the bad boys years.
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I think teams were maybe a little deeper back then as you didn't have as may rosters, but then again, there is such an influx of foreign talent that it's probably a wash. The league is in a good spot. Maybe the rules are scoring-friendly as you see the PPG up a bit now, but the cream of the crop will step up on D in the playoffs.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57791 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 8:42 am to
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OP says there is no defense, yet Boston had 15 turnovers and 30 points at half?


It was not due to stifling defense by Philly. Boston was literally throwing the ball away nearly every possession and airballing layups. One time Boston tried to throw an alley oop and the ball slammed off the backboard, then Philly came down and missed a shot off the side of the backboard...Just a terrible product.

Actual skill has taken a backseat to athleticism and putting up as many shots as possible.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27325 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 9:08 am to
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and putting up as many shots as possible.
Are you aware that the pace was much higher in the ‘80’s?

They averaged 88 field goal attempts per game in the 80’s and 29 free throws per game.

Last season the league averaged 85 field goal attempts and 23 free throws per game.

So again, your assessment is incorrect.
Seriously, just go to YouTube and watch random games from the ‘80’s. The game was so much more up and down then.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35624 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:50 am to






NBA sucks, it's like watching And 1.

And another WIDE OPEN 3.



:rotflmao:

Zone has killed the NBA, nobody switches anymore. They just stand there - no fear of illegal defense.

Product is the worst in my 30 years of watching.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35624 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:50 am to






NBA sucks, it's like watching And 1.

And another WIDE OPEN 3.





Zone has killed the NBA, nobody switches anymore. They just stand there - no fear of illegal defense.

Product is the worst in my 30 years of watching.
This post was edited on 1/19/18 at 10:51 am
Posted by Hoops
LA
Member since Jan 2013
6561 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 10:58 am to
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8 of the top 10 highest league average field goal percentages were from the 80’s. The other two were 1978 and 1979. And the two years from the 80’s that were outside the top 10 were 1988 and 1989, and those years ranked 11th and 12th. So the entire 80’s were 10 of the 12 highest field goal percentages in NBA history. Why? Because they played zero defense in the 80’s.


Could the emphasis on post play be related? fricking know it all dipshits.
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88866 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:19 am to
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nobody switches anymore

It’s the complete fricking opposite, everyone switches on Pick and Rolls
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127466 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:25 am to
Who in the league runs a zone defense outside of it being out of necessity?
Posted by supatigah
CEO of the Keith Hernandez Fan Club
Member since Mar 2004
87518 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:29 am to
wow so much stupid in this thread

I do admire pirate king's tenacity on defending CEO all over the site but the conviction of his MSB trolling is sorely lacking

picking a random game in the middle of january and using it as an indicator for criticizing the entire league is pretty funny
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145254 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:38 am to
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Zone has killed the NBA, nobody switches anymore
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Posted by WaltTeevens
Santa Barbara, CA
Member since Dec 2013
10990 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:40 am to
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Zone has killed the NBA, nobody switches anymore. They just stand there - no fear of illegal defense.

Product is the worst in my 30 years of watching


Please do us all a favor and stop watching.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35624 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 11:43 am to
NBA just sucks these days.

I don't see how anyone could like this product unless they were mentally stunted or under the age of 18.

WWE is more enjoyable and about as believable.

NBA is guys standing around playing "soft zone" not guarding anybody while collecting massive paychecks.

It's an assault on our senses and what we believe to be right and wrong.

If you're willing to consume such shite, I feel no empathy that you are being fleeced...a fool and his money are soon parted.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Actual skill has taken a backseat to athleticism and putting up as many shots as possible.


I can entertain an argument that individual man defense may be worse, but team defense is demonstrably better. The fact that offenses understand geometry (short corner 3s) and shoot well from outside shouldn't be a knock on modern defenses.

The rule changes have made team defense easier, plain and simple.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 1/19/18 at 12:33 pm to
Also, it's crazy how quickly the game evolves. 1980-81 to 1989-90 features 10 of the top 18 seasons in the last 50 years with respect to 2pt FG%. However, as the game has quickly moved away from mid-range 2s to 3s and lay-ups, the 2016-2017 season had the highest 2pt FG% in league history, and 2017-2018 is on pace to be even higher. 3pt FGAs are up 33% since 2013-14 already. The game is changing at a rapid pace.

If you want to talk about bad basketball, let's focus on the mid 90s or so to the mid 2000s. Or maybe the 1970s, where they quite literally were throwing up whatever they could get on a prayer and playing at breakneck speeds.

Lastly, the criticism of "everything is a foul" is complete horseshite. 2017-18 is on pace for the fewest FTAs in the history of the NBA. It is especially funny to hear people say "everything is a foul" these days while simultaneously bitching about walks/travels.
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