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re: Vikings need to make a blockbuster trade tomorrow for Herbert.

Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:50 am to
Posted by JoyBoyNika
Member since Jun 2026
262 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 5:50 am to
Herbert has been overrated since day 1. He’s not a winner, does not have that chip, and is constantly given every excuse in the world.

Ball don’t lie, dudes a bust
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
5576 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:07 am to
Maybe they should trade for Geno Smith. Wouldn't have to give up much and he is the perfect type of game manager they need.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
16830 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:11 am to
I wish they’d go after Dak.

Jerry’s old arse still wants that gloryhole even though this team will get its arse beat in the wild card round.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
43508 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:11 am to
Why are the qbs in the NFL so bad? Are we comparing it to a golden age of qb’s in the early 2000’s and 2010’s?

Farve
Manning
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Rothlesberger
Manning
McNabb
Romo
Mahomes


Were the 80’s and 90’s this bad at qb play and we just didn’t know it?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
15720 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:13 am to
why isnt the ravens dealing henry???? you arent a contender, and wont be next year, let him try to win a title
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487811 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:15 am to
quote:

Were the 80’s and 90’s this bad at qb play and we just didn’t know it?

Uh, yeah.

You're also crossing generations there a bit. You're including Favre and Mahomes. Think about that.

You're promoting Rivers, but what he was criticized for, Herbert is, as well (the "he's not a winner" stuff)

McNabb, Romo? I mean c'mon. You're looking at both with a halcyon lens
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
42578 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 6:58 am to
Doubt the 49ers would do it, but go get Mac
Posted by LSUTigKyl
Nashville
Member since May 2009
1978 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:37 am to
Rivers and Justin Herbert are not in the same area code. Herbert hasn’t done anything in the NFL at any point. Herbert is playing like a rookie on a horrible team.
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
15220 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 7:40 am to
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Give up three first rounders for him and they would be super bowl favorites


You fricking dorks think you can just swap QBs midseason and not miss a beat??


Do you know how much work goes into understanding and then being able to execute a playbook?



Good grief man you nerds need to hop off the Xbox every once in a while
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487811 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:03 am to
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Herbert is playing like a rookie on a horrible team.

This is just one year and clearly an outlier.

Herbert has a season with 5000 yards and 38 TDs, and in that same season he ran for over 300 yards and 3 more TDs.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
487811 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:04 am to
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Do you know how much work goes into understanding and then being able to execute a playbook?

Cousins (and Mac Jones, who was also suggested) already operate in similar systems. It wouldn't take either much to get up to speed.

Herbert would clearly be a problem, given his issues comprehending a similar playbook.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
43508 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:14 am to
quote:

You're also crossing generations there a bit. You're including Favre and Mahomes. Think about that.


I said 2000’s and 2010’s.

Farve was still a damn good qb in the 2000’s and Mahomes was elite staring in 2018. It’s why I began and ended the list with them.

quote:

You're promoting Rivers, but what he was criticized for, Herbert is, as well (the "he's not a winner" stuff)


Rivers wasn’t a winner in the playoffs. He was very much a winner In the regular season.

quote:

McNabb, Romo? I mean c'mon.

Both had absolutely elite stretches of play during their best years. Hell, both will be discussed as possible HOF’ers.

I don’t think they are, but they were really good.

All I was saying is that it seems like there was a shite ton more qb depth from 2000-2020 (rough) and all I was asking was “Is this 20-ish year span the outlier?” Because I’m not old enough to really remember the 80’s and 90’s qb play.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
89081 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:18 am to
Past history aside, Cousins is the clear answer.
After the way he played last weekend, I can see the Raiders wanting to give Mendoza the reigns, and it would not cost much of anything to the Vikings.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
49670 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:23 am to
quote:

Herbert has a season with 5000 yards and 38 TDs, and in that same season he ran for over 300 yards and 3 more TDs.


He did that once, six years ago. That was pretty clearly an outlier.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
15216 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:24 am to
The Eagles should trade for him. I’m not an Eagles fan. Maybe leave the GF.

Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45631 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:31 am to
Give up a 5th and get Cousins
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
21049 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:33 am to
They might as well ask Cleveland Browns for Shedeur Sanders. He seems competent enough at QB and since the Browns obviously don't want him it should be a cheap flyer.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
89081 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:34 am to
They're trying to win a superbowl
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5669 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Because I’m not old enough to really remember the 80’s and 90’s qb play.


I remember the 80s being good. You had a big influx of young talent and defenses were still built to stop the run.

I don't remember the specifics but several years ago there was a weekend where the NFL started a bunch of crappy, "who the hell is that guy" QBs. Someone listed the starting QBs for a random weekend in 1986. It was something like Montana, Marino, Elway, Kelley, Young, Fouts, Moon, Esaison, Simms, Kosar, McMahon, Cunningham, Everett, Kreig, O'Brien, etc. Just pretty solid across the board. Even guys like Eason, Schroeder and Hostettler game managed their team to a Super Bowl.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
24006 posts
Posted on 11/10/26 at 8:54 am to
Raiders would deal Cousins because of Mendoza and Cousins could plug and play in the MInny offense for the most part.

That's the answer.
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