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re: Vikings need to make a blockbuster trade tomorrow for Herbert.

Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:19 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:19 am to
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I said 2000’s and 2010’s.

Farve was still a damn good qb in the 2000’s and Mahomes was elite staring in 2018. It’s why I began and ended the list with them.

You're covering 2, possiblity 2.5 generations with that framing. Of course you can list more of you take it outside the snapshot of any single year (which you're comparing that framing to)

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Rivers wasn’t a winner in the playoffs. He was very much a winner In the regular season.

My point stands

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Both had absolutely elite stretches of play during their best years

Herbert has a 5k season. 38 TDs. Did Romo or Mcnabb ever do that?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:22 am to
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He did that once, six years ago. That was pretty clearly an outlier


He has 3 seasons over 4300 yards

Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:26 am to
Agree on Cousins. Florio said last week they would probably love Danny Dimes back, too. But, I don't know what it would take to get him. I still think they can be decent with Murray.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:28 am to
They’ll trade for Cousins so that they can make the playoffs and lose on a missed field goal.

That’s just how the world works.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 9:28 am
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:32 am to
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He has 3 seasons over 4300 yards


Lot of empty calories there.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 9:45 am to
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Vikings need to make a blockbuster trade tomorrow for Herbert.



Vikings made a poor evaluation on Darnold when he was in front of them having extreme success.

Then they made a poor evaluation on drafting McCarthy.

They made a poor decision with Kyler Murray.

And, now McCarthy is actually showing some signs of being a decent QB in NY.

I wouldn't be too quick to go grab an already broken QB and assume he will just thrive in Minnesota.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:32 am to
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. I still think they can be decent with Murray.

I think that offense needs a lot under center and Murray prohibits this and that's the problem.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 10:37 am to
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Lot of empty calories there.

He made the playoffs one of those years

Prior to this year, his team made the playoffs 3/6 years, and that 6 years includes both his rookie year (where they were coming off drafting super early and were coached by Anthony Lynn) and the year where he only played in 13 games.

Including this year, that's making the playoffs 42.9% of the time

Philip Rivers made the playoffs 37.5% of the time while a Charger

Better stats. Higher ceilng. Better at making the playoffs.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 10:38 am
Posted by The Torch
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:12 am to
They can have Dak.


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Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 11:20 am to
White knighting for Justin Herbert while he's never done anything of significance and currently looks like one of the worst QB's in the NFL is an odd choice.

I guess congrats on the passing yards?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:01 pm to
This year is clearly an outlier, and you're ignoring the specific discussion (Rivers v. Herbert).

Rivers didn't do anything of significance and only had passing yards to hold onto as well. Both have established history of melting down in the playoffs.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:25 pm to
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Past history aside, Cousins is the clear answer.
After the way he played last weekend, I can see the Raiders wanting to give Mendoza the reigns, and it would not cost much of anything to the Vikings.


Looks like the Vikings are using common sense

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Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by VA LSU fan
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:36 pm to
Cousins is the right this year move.

Posted by Sus-Scrofa
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:49 pm to
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Cousins is the right this year move.


The Vikings are incapable of anything other than attempts at “this year” moves when it comes to QBs.

If it comes down to planning beyond this year, the organization’s brain short circuits.
This post was edited on 11/10/26 at 12:50 pm
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by SA4LSU
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:03 pm to
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Past history aside, Cousins is the clear answer.
After the way he played last weekend, I can see the Raiders wanting to give Mendoza the reigns, and it would not cost much of anything to the Vikings.


I agree 100%. But Raiders would want a high price as the franchise and Brady have been adamant about him sitting behind Cousins this year and learning. They have a tough stretch of games coming up and I don't think they want to throw the young buck to the fire just yet.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:07 pm to
They just need to get Kyler back
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:09 pm to
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They just need to get Kyler back
GTA drops next week
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Posted on 11/10/26 at 1:28 pm to
They need a used Carr
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