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Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:36 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
You said you saw it "many times". First, you don't watch NASCAR so I'm guessing you're referring to highlights. Second, there won't be hardly any highlights that are similar to the situation Ward put himself in. Sure, guys are on the track and yell. But we were talking about going after a car and becoming a moving target while it's moving toward you.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:37 am to ell_13
Quit using logic, ell_13!!!!!
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:40 am to ell_13
Only one I remember is quite a few years back when michael waltrip threw his helmet at robby gordon at new hampshire (or I may have the roles reversed). He got pretty close to his car then. Other than that they are usually 10 yards away
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:40 am to OneMoreTime
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Did the 45 and the other guy that was high up on the track lose their cool too?
I am not a big race fan, but I don't recall seeing someone turn to the left where the back end gets sideways in the opposite way they are turning. Stewart is one of the best drivers in the world. Now all of a sudden we think he was just strolling along and didn't notice the guy walking to him because he's wearing black?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:41 am to ell_13
So the videos posted aren't proof that it happens? They aren't highlights? Every time someone does this it ends up on sportscenter
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:42 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
That what happens? Let's get on the same page here, because I think I explained myself pretty well in the post above.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:43 am
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:43 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:Are you seriously going to generalize it this way? Because if you are, there's no point explaining it to you.
Now all of a sudden we think he was just strolling along and didn't notice the guy walking to him because he's wearing black?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:43 am to PortCityTiger24
Yet again, Sprint Cars are different than stock cars. They are designed to drift, and are not designed for slow speeds like that. They do not react like stock cars, and visibility is much worse.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:43 am to PortCityTiger24
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I am not a big race fan, but I don't recall seeing someone turn to the left where the back end gets sideways in the opposite way they are turning. Stewart is one of the best drivers in the world. Now all of a sudden we think he was just strolling along and didn't notice the guy walking to him because he's wearing black?
Dirt track. Sprint car.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:43 am to PortCityTiger24
How fast y'all think he was goin when he runs over and kills that guy?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:43 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Ah, natural selection.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:44 am to PortCityTiger24
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I don't recall seeing someone turn to the left where the back end gets sideways in the opposite way they are turning.
Happens all the time on dirt tracks, tbh.
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all of a sudden we think he was just strolling along and didn't notice the guy walking to him because he's wearing black?
Guy's wearing black, at night, on a poorly lit track with low grip, Stewart is doing cool down lap speeds (which are elevated in sprint car), and has no way of knowing Ward had even exited his car, much less was literally hopping around in the track.
You can reiterate that Stewart is one of the best drivers in the world until you're blue in the face, but he's not omniscient.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:44 am to ell_13
It was said that it never happens by stout, only in WWE racing. Then it was proved that it does happen, so that argument changed to "well those aren't like this one". I have watched Nascar in the past. I don't watch it now. I have seen nascar highlights of this happening. Some of them have been posted.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:44 am to SprintFun
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:45 am to Sellecks Moustache
Trick photography, doesn't happen
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:45 am to ell_13
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Again, we're only going on one video. Nothing suggests Tony tried to hit him or even scare him. But if it does, I would agree that he has to shoulder some blame.
I agree. It would be near impossible to prove anything based on that video. But if other evidence comes out, even if that evidence is Tony was just trying to scare the kid, I think a crime was committed.
I just do not agree with the blanket statement that if you are on the track, you are at fault every time. While that is generally true, intentional conduct by another counteracts that negligence.
to the extreme, if driver A runs onto a track, and driver B hits him, then backs up over him, then drives over him again, and says, "I wanted him dead." Welp, golly, driver A should not have been on the track, driver A's fault.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:46 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I asked you a question. If you can't answer it ("That what happens?"), we're just going to go in circles. (ha. made a pun.)
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:46 am to ell_13
I'm not looking for an explanation from you. You seem to think this is black and white when there are obviously more variables. Im not trying to blindly back one side of an argument or another to win the internet. Keep doing your thing.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:46 am to boom roasted
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Looks to me like the dude got close enough to get run over, not the other way around.
Knowing TS hot headed past I think he was trying to scare the guy and it went wrong. Both have some responsibility in this.
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