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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:25 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:25 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I wish I could post videos to some of my visits. You can see the dust kick up and cake my phones camera lense. It is a very dangerous sport.
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:26 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Idk. You're the one who claimed not to know anything because you don't watch the sport. 
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:26 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:How else would you come to know NASCAR? Do you read NASCAR books? I mean, you brought up tear away visors.
So I have to watch or experience something to know about it?
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:26 am to Jcorye1
I'm not saying that does t happen, I'm just saying they aren't blind the entire race
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:27 am to ell_13
No I said I have no dog in the fight because I don't watch.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:27 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I am saying it doesn't happen with the frequency you claimed it did and that what Ward did is pretty unprecedented which it is.
All of the videos that have been linked are way different circumstances outside of MAYBE the 12 year old video SPEEDY posted.
No one has linked a video that is even close to being in the same ballpark as what Ward did.
All of the videos that have been linked are way different circumstances outside of MAYBE the 12 year old video SPEEDY posted.
No one has linked a video that is even close to being in the same ballpark as what Ward did.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:28 am to Samso
So that video is way less incriminating to Ton Stewart than Twitter was last night. He will race NASCAR again. No prison time.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:28 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
No, but visibility is limited, plus some (not all) wear a sort of Hans protector that further limits their field of vision. Ward actually has on a modified Hans protector in the video.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:31 am
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:28 am to Patrick_Bateman
He said a bunch but he basically said he can't understand how this happened. It shouldn't have happened. Not saying he's pointing the finger at Tony but to me he's close to doing that. Kasey is similar to Tony is that they both race Sprint cars a lot. He's an owner as well.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:28 am to Blizzard of Chizz
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It's going to be really hard to prove that he intentionally hit him. You're dealing with low light conditions and a driver wearing a dark fire suit with a few reflectors on a dark track. For the split second the car in front of TS passed by Ward it's possible that Tony didn't see him. You also have to account for the fact that Ward came down the track, appeared to jump/ move out of the way of another car and then came back down the track again. It's this erratic behavior that could have made it impossible for TS to avoid him. I don't think the fishtail was a result of TS trying to scare him either. It looks to me like the result of losing traction because a body is between the wheels and the ground.
Yeah. Nothing will happen in criminal court to TS. Civil court may be another matter.
I assume the people crucifying TS in the thread are just people that already hated the dude. I don't think you can even charge him based on the video.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:29 am to stout
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And if he would have been killed doing it he would it would have been just as dumb of a move as what Ward pulled.
Not sure what y'all think this changes?
You keep saying it hasn't happened. It has. To make it analogous to this situation, Tony would be at fault, unless the driver that killed him did something to cause the death recklessly or intentionally.
I don't see how this is hard to understand. You run out on the track and a driver kills you, your fault. You run out on the track and a driver knowingly tries to hit you or scare you and that results in your death, both share the blame. The only question would be being able to prove intent.
You cannot escape your intentional wrongs because the other person was negligent.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:30 am
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:30 am to ell_13
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Just went back and looked again... might be a little movement. Hard to tell.
Looked like slowed and moved to the left. At night, dirt track. Classic scenario to put the person behind you, traveling at high speed, on a collision path.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:30 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:30 am to NbamaTiger90
No way will they stop commenting on it. It is a pretty big deal for them, no?
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:31 am to tylercsbn9
Or those with common sense.
He won't be charged but he lost his cool, it's pretty obvious. He didn't intend to kill the guy but he got close enough to do it.
He won't be charged but he lost his cool, it's pretty obvious. He didn't intend to kill the guy but he got close enough to do it.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:32 am to stout
But at first you said nobody gets on the track, did you not? I think I remember something about WWE races.
Then you just changed your argument and said none were as bad as last night
Then you just changed your argument and said none were as bad as last night
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 11:33 am
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:33 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
The WWE comment was in response to you saying it basically happens every race which is not the case.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:33 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:Looks to me like the dude got close enough to get run over, not the other way around.
He didn't intend to kill the guy but he got close enough to do it.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:34 am to PortCityTiger24
quote:Did the 45 and the other guy that was high up on the track lose their cool too?
but he lost his cool, it's pretty obvious. He didn't intend to kill the guy but he got close enough to do it.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 11:34 am to Archie Bengal Bunker
quote:That has nothing to do with the videos being different though. It's a different circumstance because Ward is putting himself in an extremely dangerous situation... more so than any other video we've seen yet.
You run out on the track and a driver kills you, your fault. You run out on the track and a driver knowingly tries to hit you or scare you and that results in your death, both share the blame. The only question would be being able to prove intent.
Again, we're only going on one video. Nothing suggests Tony tried to hit him or even scare him. But if it does, I would agree that he has to shoulder some blame.
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