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re: Tim Legler calls out lack of effort in NBA: Teams are ‘borderline disinterested’

Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:00 pm to
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:00 pm to
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He was the one who pushed star power over the team.


No shite, when MJ left nobody gave a shite about the Bulls… stars are more important in the NBA than in any other sport
Posted by PaintCompany
Springfield
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:03 pm to
Should only be a 60 game season. Reduce salaries and pay on incentives
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
10345 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:19 pm to
The regular season is about 15 games too long but they’re never going to give up the money they get from those games.
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
17846 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Good way to lose your lead analyst role at ESPN
I mean it’s accurate analysis
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45992 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 5:42 pm to
There's too much racism in today's NBA. I don't blame the players for not caring
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30963 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:03 pm to
Haven’t watched the NBA since the Jordan era.
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
2409 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 6:30 pm to
Nba threads always turn into “whats wrong with the Nba” threads.

Ok. The players are much more athletic these days so game becomes dull. 3 point shot needs to be removed or dramatically changed. Games should be the same time length as college games. Season is too long. 55 to 60 games tops. Playoffs should keep same number of teams but have no series longer than 5 games. 7 makes no sense when you’re throwing out the same 5 guys every night. If 7 is necessary, why not 9 or 11?

Any shortening of games, season, playoffs will probably never happen anyway. Too much money involved.

Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30129 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 7:17 pm to
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Everyone loves to wash David Stern's balls about what a wonderful commissioner he was. He was the one who pushed star power over the team.


You are correct, but in his defense, he took over a league with an image problem. Hell, there were still playoff games on tape delay when he took over. I think marketing MJ, Magic/Bird was a move he had to make.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:06 pm to
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in his defense, he took over a league with an image problem.


In the NBA players defense from the 70s for their lack of effort and selfish schoolyard play, half the League was on drugs.

What's today's players excuse for disinterest, laziness and zero drive to actually give the paying audience their dollar's worth of giving a crap?

That's one criticism you can never lay on the 80s Bird/Magic/Jordan/Bad Boy NBA...they came to play, they came to win like it meant everything and they gave the fans their moneys-worth.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30129 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 8:20 pm to
About 10 years ago, my NBA viewing was at an all time high. I’d get FOMO if I couldn’t see a big game. It didn’t matter if it involved my team. There aren’t any special moments to miss anymore. What used to be rare and spectacular is the norm. That’s why the dunk contest died. You have the most athletic players, but they prefer to play 35 feet from the hoop and drawing cheap fouls.

The NBA is the worst major sport in terms of target demographic. I’ve come to accept that the league isn’t interested in my demographic. Silver wants people who need the instant highlight on social media, the ADD nature that demands new courts and unis 24/7, and young kids and adults who love a certain culture.

Silver isn’t interested in defense, utilizing the inside of the 3 point arc, making the game appealing to people above the age of 35, or creativity on the floor.
Posted by thumperpait
Member since Nov 2005
3923 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 9:18 pm to
Miss the days when Jordan played with the flu. Bird going into the locker room with back problems. Then comes running back into the game. Feel bad for the younger generation that didn't get to see the NBA in their prime years. I tried to watch a game recently and got bored. Just not the same.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60726 posts
Posted on 1/31/26 at 11:02 pm to
the nba is a bunch of middle class and better private scool kids now and most of them are opulently wealthy by the age of 26. kyle kuzma has made over 100MM in contract money.

role players see themselves as moguls and influencers.

most 2000s nba stars were ghetto as frick and it was great.
Posted by The Third Leg
Idiot Out Wandering Around
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 7:10 am to
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I think a lot of people default to LeBron or Steph but Harden is why the NBA is like it is today. Even Steph and LeBron added a step back to their game. Harden and D’Antoni broke basketball in Houston.

Statistical analysis is the root cause of today’s strategic emphasis on 5 out, 3 point shootouts. The data is quite clear—3’s and shots in the lane offer the highest probability of offensive success, and anything other than that lowers your probability of success. Blaming any player for this is a gross display of ignorance.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 7:13 am
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49068 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:33 am to
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Silver isn’t interested in defense, utilizing the inside of the 3 point arc, making the game appealing to people above the age of 35, or creativity on the floor.
silver’s opinions on those things have no bearing on the product on the floor. Those are all team building decisions made by individual teams looking at and analyzing data and efficiency models. If the NBA wanted to though, changes could be made. They could move the 3pt line back for example, using real data to determine the distance where the 3pt shot becomes similarly effective as the 2pt shot. And they could widen the lanes. And they could add a foul to the penalty limit. And they could do a myriad of other things relative to player behavior…

but the teams would have to vote and approve those things. Adam Silver would only be able to lead and suggest
Posted by SludgeFactory
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Jun 2025
3878 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:38 am to
These guys could totally gang rape the 90's bulls and the GOAT though. Absolutely.

LOL what a joke professional sports has become, minus the NHL.
Posted by CHiPs25
Member since Apr 2014
3120 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 8:45 am to
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don’t watch regular season anymore but will be tuned into playoffs like usual.


I sure wish the playoffs weren’t as long as they are. If they could go to a best of 3 for the playoffs and then the Championship game is best of 5 then it would help. The season ends and almost 2 months later is the finals. Ridiculous how long it takes.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49068 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:09 am to
NHL playoffs take just as long as NBA since they don’t play consecutive nights. I suppose they could but quality would go down. You are complaining about the very thing that makes the NBA playoffs compelling…maximum effort which is what this thread is about
Posted by Colonel Flagg
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Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:24 am to
The easiest thing to fix the 3pt line issue is to cap the reward of 3pt shots. Don’t move the line. Just make it where after so many makes it turns to 2pt shots. You can still shoot out there for spacing; however, you will not get the extra point.

Make it 2 made 3s per quarter that result in 3pts up until the last 3 minutes of the game. The last 3 minutes of the game there is no cap. That way until the last three minutes of the game you could only have 8 made 3s worth 3pts. At a 35% rate that is only 23 attempts at that point until maxed out.

It isn’t that crazy of a change as they have changed fouls results and foul limits over the years based off of time in the game.

The NBA should like it, as neutralizing perimeter shooting gives them more influence over the officiating and outcome of the game.

This change would end this nonsense with a quickness.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54851 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:42 am to
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most 2000s nba stars were ghetto as frick and it was great.


Did that not turn off a lot of people? I saw Allen Iverson on the Pels game last night and he’s still rocking a chain like it’s a midlife crisis
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
49068 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 9:59 am to
that’s a very good idea. Teams taking 50+ threes a game (sometimes, each team) is not a good watch
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