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re: The Transfer Portal is sending the wrong message....
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:34 pm to jimbeam
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:34 pm to jimbeam
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I didn’t get a full ride scholarship directly from LSU
So? It's not like someone else wont give them the same deal. By your standard, we have to find a coach who isn't under contract.
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Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:35 pm to oldskule
I hate the Transfer Portal.
But then again, if I am an athlete or coach, Im probably loving it.
But then again, if I am an athlete or coach, Im probably loving it.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:36 pm to oldskule
It’s not the portal that’s the problem. It’s the amount of transfer waivers granted. Previously waivers weren’t handed out like they are now. If a kid had to sit out a year for transferring they’d put more thought into it.
Grad transfers should be able to go wherever with no restrictions but these kids leaving after 1 year because their feelings are hurt shouldn’t be allowed without repercussions
Grad transfers should be able to go wherever with no restrictions but these kids leaving after 1 year because their feelings are hurt shouldn’t be allowed without repercussions
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:38 pm to jimbeam
No other college student has had so much time, effort and money dedicated to the recruiting of them. The vast majority of the students are not receiving full-ride scholarships. There is a big difference between a scholarship student athlete and a normal paying student.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:38 pm to Dstllsu
I'm not a fan of the portal. With what a lot kids can do in HS with college credit hours, and online classes while in school I really don't mind what they do after they get a degree.
Or, if they want to drop to a lower classification and play for a year.
Or, if they want to drop to a lower classification and play for a year.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:38 pm to Piebald Panther
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these kids leaving after 1 year because their feelings are hurt shouldn’t be allowed without repercussions
Why?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:38 pm to oldskule
The NCAA with its pathetic leadership has destroyed college football as we know it. There’s no chance coaches can get any kind of continuity with the Keystone cops like atmosphere they created. It’s time for the College Football Association to pull out and form their own football super conference.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:39 pm to Piebald Panther
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It’s not the portal that’s the problem. It’s the amount of transfer waivers granted. Previously waivers weren’t handed out like they are now. If a kid had to sit out a year for transferring they’d put more thought into it.
I do agree that the way the NCAA hands out waivers is an issue. Some kids that transfer just to get more playing time are granted waivers while some that have experienced actual hardships aren't.
It seems that higher profile athletes that were either highly ranked or are transferring from/to a big time program are more likely to get a waiver than a lesser profile athlete in a similar situation.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:39 pm to oldskule
It really doesn’t do that at all. It basically just allows for them to legally (NCAA rules) to be contacted by other programs. It also gives them the ability to do that and still keep the option of staying possible.
It isn’t perfect, but way better than the shady crap that was going on before.
Now if you want to complain about the waiver on sitting out a season, that is another story.
It isn’t perfect, but way better than the shady crap that was going on before.
Now if you want to complain about the waiver on sitting out a season, that is another story.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:40 pm to Mo Jeaux
25 man signing class limit needs to end if the portal stays.
Also, the rich will get richer due to the portal.
Also, the rich will get richer due to the portal.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:41 pm to LSUZach011
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No other college student has had so much time, effort and money dedicated to the recruiting of them. The vast majority of the students are not receiving full-ride scholarships. There is a big difference between a scholarship student athlete and a normal paying student.
Again, so what?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:41 pm to HammerheadLincoln
Literally every one of these were graduate transfers. the fulfilled their obligations at their original scholarship schools and then decided to move on.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:41 pm to oldskule
The problem is not the portal.
It's long been overdue.
The problem is trying to replace those that leave due to the limit to your counters.
#1 it hurts your signing class as you are limiting opportunities for those teams that don't sign 25
#2 if you sign 25 than you are limited in to taking in transfers
So, for example, if it's true that Ricks is looking to leave. Not only do you lose Ricks but you also lose the opportunity to replace him if you have already filled your 25 limit.
Therefore you are falling below your 85 most likely which I guess you could fill with walk ons but then that creates competitive imbalances with the teams you are trying to compete with.
It's typical with the NCAA though, in allowing or changing rules they don't take into account the inequities it creates as far as numbers go so then they have to go back and try and fix the mess they create in the first place.
Also, you have so many in portal now that will never find another place to play and I don't think that was the intent of it.
It's long been overdue.
The problem is trying to replace those that leave due to the limit to your counters.
#1 it hurts your signing class as you are limiting opportunities for those teams that don't sign 25
#2 if you sign 25 than you are limited in to taking in transfers
So, for example, if it's true that Ricks is looking to leave. Not only do you lose Ricks but you also lose the opportunity to replace him if you have already filled your 25 limit.
Therefore you are falling below your 85 most likely which I guess you could fill with walk ons but then that creates competitive imbalances with the teams you are trying to compete with.
It's typical with the NCAA though, in allowing or changing rules they don't take into account the inequities it creates as far as numbers go so then they have to go back and try and fix the mess they create in the first place.
Also, you have so many in portal now that will never find another place to play and I don't think that was the intent of it.
This post was edited on 1/20/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:42 pm to LSUZach011
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the fulfilled their obligations at their original scholarship schools
What obligations?
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:43 pm to Piebald Panther
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It’s not the portal that’s the problem. It’s the amount of transfer waivers granted. Previously waivers weren’t handed out like they are now. If a kid had to sit out a year for transferring they’d put more thought into it.
Exactly. Whoever the first person was who let little Johnny transfer because he was homesick started an avalanche.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:44 pm to Mo Jeaux
Your answer is quite literally in the comment you are questioning.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:45 pm to LSUZach011
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Your answer is quite literally in the comment you are questioning.
It's quite literally not.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:45 pm to thejuiceisloose
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Well scholarships are on a yearly basis
False.. this ended 4-5 years ago
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:45 pm to The Mick
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Players used to have to sit out a year, now they don't so yes the current 'portal' is what the OP said it is imho fwiw tbh.
Your misunderstanding of the rules as they are doesn’t justify his conflation of the issue.
It just makes both of you look dumb.
Posted on 1/20/21 at 1:45 pm to oldskule
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The Transfer Portal is sending the wrong message....
Yeah, the message that LSU can't handle their damn business.
If they were transferring from Bama, there wouldn't be so much of this get off my lawn BS.
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