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re: The Texans and Mario Williams would like an apology!
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:24 pm to Message Board User
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:24 pm to Message Board User
Oh, you're absolutely right. One of my favorites (no, no, I take that back...definitely my favorite) was Gene Wojciechowski of ESPN:
"Houston could have chosen USC tailback Reggie Bush, but instead got sloppy drunk on "measureables" and potential rather than actual production. Hel-lo, did you see how many contrails and broken ankles Bush left behind this season?"
"Houston could have chosen USC tailback Reggie Bush, but instead got sloppy drunk on "measureables" and potential rather than actual production. Hel-lo, did you see how many contrails and broken ankles Bush left behind this season?"
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Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:26 pm to Augustus
The Williams-Bush-VY saga is just another example of why you cannot definitively judge a draft until at least 3 or 4 years out.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:27 pm to Augustus
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but instead got sloppy drunk on "measureables" and potential rather than actual production.
this line always cracked me up
mario had like 14.5 sacks his junior year
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't know
What pick did they get from Chicago, the 18th overall? Plus a third round pick, then another 1st next year and a starting qb (who was actually playing decent). I think that has more value...not sure about what the chart says...and it's not like a team would not have traded a top 5 pick for Cutler. Hell, there were talks of the Chiefs trading the #3 over all for Cassel before he and Vrabel were given to them.
What pick did they get from Chicago, the 18th overall? Plus a third round pick, then another 1st next year and a starting qb (who was actually playing decent). I think that has more value...not sure about what the chart says...and it's not like a team would not have traded a top 5 pick for Cutler. Hell, there were talks of the Chiefs trading the #3 over all for Cassel before he and Vrabel were given to them.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:52 pm to PortCityTiger24
I thought the Texans made the right call.
I wish I'd posted it here for posterity
I wish I'd posted it here for posterity
Posted on 8/16/09 at 5:56 pm to LSUSportsR4me
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Would you take any of these players ahead of Mario?
no. texans made the perfect decision.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:20 pm to LSUSportsR4me
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Would you take any of these players ahead of Mario?
Yes
Reggie Bush - RB
Jay Cutler - QB
Santonio Holmes - WR
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:36 pm to LSUSportsR4me
Yes, Joseph Addai (a Texan) was the best player in that 1st round.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:44 pm to LSUGradATL
Super Bowl MVP ftw
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:51 pm to KosmoCramer
As far as first round RB's, Addai and D. Williams have both out produced Bush. Williams has turned into quite a player and I'd love to have that kind of pass rusher on the Saints. HOWEVER, drafting Bush added a ton of excitement to the team and was a major factor in the season sell out (something that has continued since). A defensive end simply doesn't create that kind of buzz. And for the Saints, they desperately needed to make that kind of splash at the time. Right now, if given the opportunity, I'd trade Bush for Williams. But as far as the impact on the franchise as a whole, I'm glad we got him.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:54 pm to LSUSportsR4me
Cromartie
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:57 pm to Elleshoe
Anyone saying they would take Bush over Williams is the biggest Saints homer on the fricking planet. Not even close. A dominant passrusher is so much more valuable than a slightly above average scatback.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 7:58 pm to Elleshoe
after the first two, the next names that even remotely catch my interest would be Cutler or Ngata....the rest just busted out as far as i'm concerned
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:00 pm to Volmanac
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Anyone saying they would take Bush over Williams is the biggest Saints homer on the fricking planet. Not even close. A dominant passrusher is so much more valuable than a slightly above average scatback.
the Saints don't make the NFC championship w/o Bush..when he was drafted that was about as excited Saints fans have ever been.
To this day when he gets the ball in anytime of open field..backfield/receiver/punting...the whole Dome is a buzz....Bush biggest thing is injuries. Not sure why so many people hate him w/ a passion
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:00 pm to Shankopotomus
McCargo. Big time bust. Kyle Williams has been starting over him since they got into the eague. Williams is probably the best DT in the 2006 draft
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:07 pm to Tiger Chad
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the Saints don't make the NFC championship w/o Bush..when he was drafted that was about as excited Saints fans have ever been.
How many all pro years has the bushter had? Cuz Williams has been all Pro both of his years, including first team last year.
I repeat, a dominant DE. Vital part of a football team. If Bush can ever learn to run between the tackles, he can be a Charlie Garner caliber player. And I love Charlie, but thats not the level of difference maker as a dominant DE.
This post was edited on 8/16/09 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:10 pm to Volmanac
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I repeat, a dominant DE. Vital part of a football team.
I'm not denying this....but so is a game changer..someone who can hit that homerun....Bush prob. would have had a great shot at Probowl last year until injured.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:11 pm to fightingtiger2335
Jones Drew outproduced Bush and he went round 2.
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:12 pm to fightingtiger2335
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but so is a game changer..someone who can hit that homerun
bush hasn't really hit many home runs in the NFL
Posted on 8/16/09 at 8:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jakey..I have no idea why youhate Bush so much. Maybe it's because you like to rile up the board and go against the grain to be different...but you act like he has never did shite.
I'm sure you been to a big Saints game...people will boo him one play then go nuts next time he touches the ball because it can happen.
When he's back for a punt the crowd chants REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE
He brings something to the team...I wouldn't trade the NFC championship run for anything and he was a vital player in that run.
I'm sure you been to a big Saints game...people will boo him one play then go nuts next time he touches the ball because it can happen.
When he's back for a punt the crowd chants REGGIE REGGIE REGGIE
He brings something to the team...I wouldn't trade the NFC championship run for anything and he was a vital player in that run.
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