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re: The Rays are just further proof that moneyball doesn’t really work

Posted on 10/28/26 at 7:21 am to
Posted by Flaming Meons
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 7:21 am to
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No i don't think you do.

Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:08 am to
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This is only half true. That team had multiple superstars
So did the "Moneyball" A's. They had Mulder Hudson and Zito for arms and Tejada and Chavez as well.
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:45 am to
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They had Mulder Hudson and Zito for arms and Tejada and Chavez as well.


None of these guys were superstars at any point in their careers. The Red Sox had two HOFers plus Curt Schilling and Manny Ramirez who should both be in.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:03 am to
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that awful stadium that won’t be full


they've had full houses of 40,000+ for both World Series games so far.
Posted by JerryTheKingBawler
South of Memphis
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:10 am to
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they've had full houses of 40,000+ for both World Series games so far.

And 60% have been Brew Crew fans.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:12 am to
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And 60% have been Brew Crew fans.



even better for Milwaukee.
can win it in a Ballpark with mostly your own fans, but with Florida's weather instead of Wisconsin's when you go out to party afterwards
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:35 am to
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So did the "Moneyball" A's. They had Mulder Hudson and Zito for arms and Tejada and Chavez as well.


Giambi was a superstar until he left
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:44 am to
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None of these guys were superstars at any point in their careers. The Red Sox had two HOFers plus Curt Schilling and Manny Ramirez who should both be in.
Im not arguing with you, Im agreeing that moneyball only seemed to work when you had some excellent players already around.

But Tejada won the AL MVP that year and Zito won the Cy Young.
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:47 am to
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This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 10:49 am
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:20 pm to
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Tampa has been good for a while. That’s the definition of moneyball, smart guy.
they’ve been “good”
But never a real contender

If they were fans of other franchises would be dunking on them for getting gentleman’s swept yet again on the big stage rather than giving them pats on the back for “trying”

They’ll never be a real contender to win it all, and that’s evident

That’s why fans don’t show up, it’s because they know it’s not worth the time because the rays will
Never win anything of relevance

Last year I said the rays are a fraud. This year that assessment has been confirmed. For the Rays, analytics define everything. The Rays do not make decisions based on logic, what's right, or what's smart. It is solely based on analytics and what the computer tells them is best. Well according to the analytics the Rays were first in wins, hits, AVG, SB, RISP, etc. in the AL. So based on analytics, the rays are not just a good baseball team but the 'best' in the AL. Well according to reality, the Rays just got gentlemanly swept by essentially an evenly matched team in the Brewers with the same style of play, and same kind of players. The Rays, who operate entirely on analytics, didn't just lose what was possibly the best and easiest opportunity for their first championship, but they lost by failing in literally every aspect of the game.
This post was edited on 10/28/26 at 11:06 pm
Posted by OWLFAN86
Arrogant Dickweed
Member since Jun 2004
199881 posts
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:23 pm to
the Brewers have won a WS more recently than the yankees

And the Astros x's 2
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