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re: The question no longer remains is he the greatest QB of all-time

Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216475 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:59 pm to
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PEEJ gone off the piss again


YOU wanna play????

When it comes to the history of the NFL...Even YOU have ZERO chance vs. ME...


YOU can GFY..............
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 8:59 pm to
Unitas is more of a 60s guy in my mind, though he did have three great years in the 50s
Posted by Trump4LSU
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2016
366 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:01 pm to
Tom Brady is the GOAT
Posted by highbooost
Dayton, OH
Member since Sep 2016
1341 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 9:51 pm to
You want NFL history, Dayton Triangles.... book it. NFL ain't new in my town, it was invented here.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58213 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 10:34 pm to
They were still breaking Unitas records only a few years ago. had the arm, the brains, the toughness. Won repeatedly in the last two minutes of a game.

He would absolutely murder defenses in today's NFL.

There are probably at least five qb's better than Brady.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2309 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:43 am to
frick Tom Brady. He is as soft as charmin.

That being said, he is an all time great but he isn't the greatest player IMO.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32604 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:46 am to
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you think people will forget about Peyton Manning or John Elway you're a goddamn lunatic


Agreed. However, they will not be mentioned in the same breath as Brady.


as they shouldnt be discussed in same sentence as cheaters
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72160 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:49 am to
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There are probably at least five qb's better than Brady.


Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:11 am to
Woke up this morning and at the QUARTERBACKING LEVEL it's still Manning>>>everyone else.

I'm more comfortable putting Brady as the GOAT player than I am him as the GOAT quarterback.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:16 am
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:31 am to
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The question no longer remains is he the greatest QB of all-time


Says ...?


I watched Tom Brady complain like a 6 year old girl against the Texans when a rusher took a step & shoved him to the ground.




Jonny Unitas,Otto Graham , Staubach ,Griese , etc.......did not have the following when they played:

1)In the Grasp rule .No crying when you got body slammed

2) no hook slides to save you from defenders essentially circling like sharks to put you out the game.

3) No "strike zone" were the QB cannot be touched above the shoulder pads or below the waist .Every part of the body was fair game except the face mask.

4) No tossing the ball in the dirt to protect you from rushing defenders once you leave the pocket .



Pre 1980 neither did QBs have the following :


1) Lineman who could legally extend arms grab pass rushers to give QBs more time/ protect them from more hits. Legalized "holding" to open the passing game.


2) Mel Blount rule as receivers can no longer be touched pass 5 yards. Open passing game.

3)no defenseless receiver nonsense when it was the defenders job to make Receivers pay for daring to catch a ball .



Unfair to compare eras that are essentially 2 different games.



Tyrod Taylor last 2 seasons had a QB rating higher than most of Johny Unitas , Graham,Staubach, & most pre 1980 great QBs seasons..


Why not just compare these guys to players from this era instead of Crowning them GOAT without understanding how the rules are created to protect QBs & make the passing game much easiear.....?

This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:47 am to
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Steroids weren't against official NFL policy until 1987, so to be technical it wasn't cheating. Spygate and deflategate were alleged instances that were directly prohibited by NFL policy and rules.

I didn't read the meme other than the part about calling his own plays, but to prescribe that retroactively enforcing a rule constitutes cheating is a bit of a stretch.

And Spygate wasn't "cheating" until the 07 season. Nothing in Deflategate was actually proven, but you already knew that.
Your tears are delicious.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:48 am to
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oleyeller

So mad.
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
9967 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 11:56 am to
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Now the question has become: Is he the greatest PLAYER of all-time?


And this is even more silly than comparing different eras.


How can I seriously compare Lawrence Taylor to Elway?


Reggie White to Marino?


Jerry Rice to Manning?



Silly arguments to waste time on instead of appreciating players/ positions/ eras.



Impossible to compare the brutally physical " dead ball era" in the NFL to this pass happy/ QB/ WR protected one.

Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
13074 posts
Posted on 2/7/17 at 12:12 pm to
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