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The overvaluing of Mahones
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:11 pm
Mahomes is a great player and the 5 straight AFC title games is impressive, but with many claiming he is on pace as the GOAT based on one Super Bow ring need to take a look at what type of team he took over.
2015-2017 Chiefs under Reid and with Smith at QB went:
11-5, 12-4, 10-6.
Of course, Mahomes elevated them, but Reid already had them as a playoff team with significant talent.
People also seem to be forgetting that Reid took Philly to 5 straight NFC title games. McNabb was a strong but not GOAT QB.
Fact is that it is more about Reid than Mahomes, although Mahomes is a key reason for their success.
2015-2017 Chiefs under Reid and with Smith at QB went:
11-5, 12-4, 10-6.
Of course, Mahomes elevated them, but Reid already had them as a playoff team with significant talent.
People also seem to be forgetting that Reid took Philly to 5 straight NFC title games. McNabb was a strong but not GOAT QB.
Fact is that it is more about Reid than Mahomes, although Mahomes is a key reason for their success.
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Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:12 pm to Geauxgurt
PM is better than McNabb was
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:13 pm to Geauxgurt
Didn’t read. Downvote.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:13 pm to Geauxgurt
Burrow is better
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:15 pm to Falco
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Burrow is better
The most annoying thing about twitter, is that any post about a player, some idiot posts ( insert name ) is betah within the first few post.
This post was edited on 1/29/23 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:16 pm to Geauxgurt
Meh. They’ll both be 1st ballot HOFers, but assuming no major injuries, Mahomes is on pace for a top 5 all time QB career. I don’t believe anybody will consider Reid a top 5 coach. He needed Mahomes to get him over all those 10-6/11-5/lose in the CCG season humps. Mahomes would be balling wherever he went.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:18 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
2015-2017 Chiefs under Reid and with Smith at QB went:
11-5, 12-4, 10-6.
Of course, Mahomes elevated them, but Reid already had them as a playoff team with significant talent.
People also seem to be forgetting that Reid took Philly to 5 straight NFC title games. McNabb was a strong but not GOAT QB.
Fact is that it is more about Reid than Mahomes, although Mahomes is a key reason for their success.
Their current offensive weapons are Smith-Schuster, Mecole Hardman, and Pancheco.
Kelse is a dog, granted.
Reid is an all time great too and he could keep this team afloat with a league average QB, but there's absolutely no doubt Mahomes elevates that offense.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:20 pm to Geauxgurt
I remember when LSU and Fournette crushed him.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:22 pm to TrueTiger
You mean Brandon Harris crushed him
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:25 pm to Geauxgurt
quote:
2015-2017 Chiefs under Reid and with Smith at QB went:
11-5, 12-4, 10-6.
Sounds like the Pats without Brady during his run
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:27 pm to Geauxgurt
Mahomes rookie season was better than damn near any QB season ever
Mahomes now is better than anyone and everyone.
Mahomes now is better than anyone and everyone.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:28 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Mahomes wouldn’t have sniffed a Super Bowl yet if he’d been drafted by the bengals.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 5:33 pm to Geauxgurt
Mahomes v Burrow is setting up to be such an epic rivalry.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:57 pm to NawlinsTiger9
There is not a time in Brady’s life he could have made that play
Posted on 1/29/23 at 7:58 pm to NawlinsTiger9
Eh. Relax.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:09 pm to Hot Carl
quote:he's three career wins behind Landry for 4th all time. And his winning percentage is 35 points higher. He's got a pretty decent argument for top 5
I don’t believe anybody will consider Reid a top 5 coach
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:10 pm to diremustang
Current?
Absolutely top 5
Absolutely top 5
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:12 pm to Geauxgurt
Yeah, they had good teams back then, they had Alex Smith I think at QB who had become a good QB. But he wasn't no Patrick Mahomes, that's the difference. Alex Smith was comparable to a Dak Prescott, good regular season QB, but sucked in the playoffs. When Reid traded up to grab Mahomes ahead of the Saints it was because he knew Mahomes had that special something in him to get Kansas City to the Super bowl.
Posted on 1/29/23 at 8:17 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Mahomes rookie season was better than damn near any QB season ever
Mahomes threw exactly 0 TD passes his rookie season.
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