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re: The Myth of the Jaguar Nation and HBCUs In General
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:41 am to LordSaintly
Posted on 8/16/19 at 9:41 am to LordSaintly
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HBCUs got the best black students and student-athletes.
Yeah we did... LSU 1958 national championship team wasn’t even the best college football team in the state of Louisiana...
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:08 am to lepdagod
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LSU 1958 national championship team wasn’t even the best college football team in the state of Louisiana...
Well it wasn’t 6-3 Grambling or 8-2 Southern.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:09 am to JBeam
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I just looked up Stephen F. Austins schedule. They only have four home games.
Sam Houston only played 4 home games in 2012. That was the season they made their consecutive championship game appearance. They played both Baylor and TAMU that year and probably floated the athletic department for the following 3 years doing so.
It's just not all that uncommon for small programs to play a lot of road games. And it has no relation to the academic quality of their schools.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:11 am to c on z
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Aren’t FCS schools more likely to have a lot of road games if their schedule includes teams from the FBS? If so, what’s the problem here?
Thank you. All of this.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:16 am to Michael T. Tiger
Southern is expanding too. Opening a law school in Shreveport. It is completely ridiculous.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:28 am to lepdagod
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LSU 1958 national championship team wasn’t even the best college football team in the state of Louisiana...
Grambling and Southern couldnt even win the SWAC in the NCAA small college division but you think they were better than undefeated LSU in the university division.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:36 am to Wayne Campbell
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Sam Houston only played 4 home games in 2012. That was the season they made their consecutive championship game appearance. They played both Baylor and TAMU that year and probably floated the athletic department for the following 3 years doing so.
It's just not all that uncommon for small programs to play a lot of road games. And it has no relation to the academic quality of their schools.
just for funsies I went and looked up the schedule for the defending FCS Champions... North Dakota State Bison (they have 6 home games this season by the way... 4 during conference play)
and then I learned that NDSU is also in the Big XII Conference for wrestling
just your average, useless, fun fact of the day
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 10:37 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 10:48 am to Wayne Campbell
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They played both Baylor and TAMU that year and probably floated the athletic department for the following 3 years doing so.
It's just not all that uncommon for small programs to play a lot of road games.
It would be different if that was what Southern was doing. They only play one D-1 school this year and its Memphis. Memphis isn't some big payday for the athletic program.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:02 am to GetCocky11
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Yep. Places like Howard and Morehouse are quality schools.
There is a growing gap between Private HBCUs (such as Howard and Morehouse) and the Public HBCUs such as Southern and Grambling.
The private HBCUs also have a stronger alumni base who contributes to those schools.
For example, no one is shitting on Xavier University of LA. It's a damn good school and it's also an HBCU, but it's private.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:10 am to Michael T. Tiger
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I just read a tweet stating that Southern University will play only three home games this year and will have a combined eight games on the road or at neutral sites. Throw out the Bayou Classic, and that’s still seven road and/or neutral site games.
You miscounted, they play 5 true home games, not 4. I believe they are the home team for the Bayou Classic this year (which is a conference game) so really 4 "home" games.
4 away games are conference games.
They play four non-conf games. Two at home, two on the road.
A number of Southland conference teams play 5 home games.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:33 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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They only play one D-1 school this year and its Memphis. Memphis isn't some big payday for the athletic program.
At the same time, you can’t expect a FBS team to make some road trip to a FCS school.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:37 am to TbirdSpur2010
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HBCUs served an extremely important purpose. Thankfully the need for them has pretty much been eradicated. That's a very good sign societally.
Other than Hampton, Howard, Morehouse and a couple others. The rest are a joke
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 11:54 am
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:53 am to StraightCashHomey21
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Moorehouse
bruh
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:54 am to LordSaintly
Auto correct on the phone
Posted on 8/16/19 at 11:58 am to Michael T. Tiger
Lots of black schools play neutral site “Classic” games for a paycheck.
Grambling’s player revolt a few years back was in part due to the school bussing them all over the country to play in those games while pocketing all the money
Grambling’s player revolt a few years back was in part due to the school bussing them all over the country to play in those games while pocketing all the money
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:00 pm to Wayne Campbell
Sam Houston and SFA only have 4 home games at times because they lose a home game with the SFA-SHSU game being in Houston
Most FCS teams only play 11 games which is usually 6-5 home away split. If your home game is neutral it can framing you to a 4-6-1 split which happens to SFA/Sam
Most FCS teams only play 11 games which is usually 6-5 home away split. If your home game is neutral it can framing you to a 4-6-1 split which happens to SFA/Sam
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:37 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The other side of the HBC story is in Knoxville TN, where Knoxville College has no students, but managed to graduate one person last year. Also no professors, but a group who haven't given up.
On line there are Knoxville College Annuals from the 30s and the college attracted students from all over this country. And the annuals listed the good things that some of their graduates were doing.
The stories are out there. But will anyone write it?
On line there are Knoxville College Annuals from the 30s and the college attracted students from all over this country. And the annuals listed the good things that some of their graduates were doing.
The stories are out there. But will anyone write it?
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:56 pm to Michael T. Tiger
Southern Football was great in the early 90s.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:09 pm to JBeam
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I know the diversity dept is usually a whipping boy on here. But I do think they service some purpose.
Most people aren't adverse to having something like this, they are adverse to it overriding everything else.
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:34 pm to Wayne Campbell
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Sam Houston only played 4 home games in 2012. That was the season they made their consecutive championship game appearance. They played both Baylor and TAMU that year and probably floated the athletic department for the following 3 years doing so.
It's just not all that uncommon for small programs to play a lot of road games. And it has no relation to the academic quality of their schools.
Yep. If the standard is some f'ed up metric consisting of number of home games, attendance, football revenue, and academic performance....its a f'ed up metric.....and there would be hundreds of schools on this list with only a small number of them being HBCUs.
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