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re: The Cardinals are better than analysts are predicting
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:54 am to Overbrook
Posted on 4/4/17 at 12:54 am to Overbrook
quote:
The Cubs are deeper and better than the Cardinals across the board...but not by a whole lot
That is quantifiably inaccurate about the rotations and bullpen.
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Posted on 4/4/17 at 7:21 am to The Stranger
joe maddon has a horse shoe up his rear end. The cardinals can't beat the horse shoe
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:17 am to goldennugget
Goddamn, you are so fricking stupid. You really don't know your arse from a hole in the ground. Go back to playing with your shitty little spreadsheets nerd.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:20 am to The Stranger
quote:
quote:
The Cubs are deeper and better than the Cardinals across the board...but not by a whole lot
That is quantifiably inaccurate about the rotations and bullpen.
You're either an idiot or just in denial if you think the Cards rotation and bullpen are both quantifiable better than the Cubs.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 8:29 am to BCMCubs
quote:
Didnt yall lose Reyes like the first day of Spring Training? How big of a loss will that be?
Massive. Still better than last year since he got lynn but massive. We were looking at 3 pitchers below a 3.30.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:02 am to FulshearTiger
quote:
You're either an idiot or just in denial if you think the Cards rotation and bullpen are both quantifiable better than the Cubs.
Actually hes not wrong, or at least far off. its proven that teams have figured out Arrieta, No one is scared to face him anymore. Lester WILL NOT REPEAT LAST SEASON, if you actually think he will, I can no longer have a baseball discussion with you, ever.
lackey is 64 years old. Good for his age, but not great as a pitcher.
Kyle is legit, cant say anything about him.
Brett Anderson....?
Point is, If I was doing a draft, Id take in order:
Hendricks
Martinez
Lynn
Wacha(if healthy like they say he is but who knows)
lester
Arrieta
and so on
If damn Reyes wasnt out all year, I think all of baseball would take the Cards top 4
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 9:02 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:16 am to mizslu314
So you'd take Lance Lynn and Michael Wacha over Jake Arrieta and Jon Lester.
Alrighty then
Alrighty then
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:19 am to The Stranger
quote:
Their rotation and bullpen is better than the cubs - significantly better.
I'm as big of a Cardinals fan as there is, and this just isn't true. At least for the rotation. The Cardinals bullpen is undoubtedly better but let's go 1-5 rotation.
1) Lester vs Martinez PUSH
2) Arrieta vs Wainwright CUBS
3) Lackey vs Lynn PUSH
4) Hendricks vs Leake CUBS
5) Anderson vs Wacha CARDS
Now do I think the Cubs rotation will stay injury free for the most part like they did last year. No but they are a better rotation.
The Cubs won't be quite as good and the Cardinals will be a bit better but I'd still put the Cubs odds of winning the division at 95%
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:20 am to mizslu314
You'd take 3 cardinal starters over Lester and artrieta??? Bwhahahaga
You're the reason girls shouldn't talk sports you goddamn idiot
A guy coming off tommy John and a guy with a 5 'ERA last year
over 2015 cy young and 2016 runner up
Lackey had a lower ERA over every cardinal starter not named Martinez
You're the reason girls shouldn't talk sports you goddamn idiot
A guy coming off tommy John and a guy with a 5 'ERA last year
over 2015 cy young and 2016 runner up Lackey had a lower ERA over every cardinal starter not named Martinez
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:21 am to Yak
Absolutely. Younger, and more consistent.
Look at wacha stats. He was injured damn near all season(which is probably the only season you would know of his era).
Lester is good, but freaking old man, how do you not care about that?
Arrieta is old news.
Look at wacha stats. He was injured damn near all season(which is probably the only season you would know of his era).
Lester is good, but freaking old man, how do you not care about that?
Arrieta is old news.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:23 am to TheXman
Injury-free is key here. Cubs have been blessed over the last 2 seasons as far as their starters go.
The cards rotation is also younger, which is a bonus.
The cards rotation is also younger, which is a bonus.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:25 am to mizslu314
quote:Injuries and pitchers do not sit well with me. You're telling me that he will be better than the 2015 CY Young, and the 2016 Runner up for Cy Young on a "if he is back to being healthy"
Look at wacha stats. He was injured damn near all season(which is probably the only season you would know of his era).
quote:Again, Cy Young runner up last YEAR.
Lester is good, but freaking old man, how do you not care about that?
quote:Keep telling yourself that.
Arrieta is old news.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:26 am to FulshearTiger
quote:
You're either an idiot or just in denial if you think the Cards rotation and bullpen are both quantifiable better than the Cubs.
The Cubs rotation is better. However I think there is a strong argument that the Cardinals bullpen is better.
Oh, Siegrist and Rosenthal is a trio that the Cubs can't match if Rosenthal returns to form.
Add in Cecil for the lefties and Bowman as a middle reliever and I think the Cardinals have a clear advantage here.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:29 am to Lester Earl
Some of these Cardinal fans remind me of the girl at the bar that is just past her prime but used to be a bombshell. She does anything she can to get the attention again
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:31 am to Yak
Pitchers come back from TJ perfectly fine if not better on the reg now. (taking about lynn)
I'll take a 26 yo pitcher with a career era of 3.11 over a mid 30's lad. I just will, not even talking about this year, talking about over the next few years.
And arrieta is old news, but so it waino, im not denying that.
Also CF defense was a nightmare last year, as you guys know thats been corrected, which o no, that inproves starters era.
I'll take a 26 yo pitcher with a career era of 3.11 over a mid 30's lad. I just will, not even talking about this year, talking about over the next few years.
And arrieta is old news, but so it waino, im not denying that.
Also CF defense was a nightmare last year, as you guys know thats been corrected, which o no, that inproves starters era.
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:36 am to mylsuhat
The only position player on the cards that is an upgrade over the Cubs player at the same position is dexter fowler
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:39 am to Lester Earl
I really hope we see a lot of Albert Almora this year
This post was edited on 4/4/17 at 9:41 am
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:41 am to TheXman
quote:
Oh, Siegrist and Rosenthal is a trio that the Cubs can't match if Rosenthal returns to form.
Add in Cecil for the lefties and Bowman as a middle reliever and I think the Cardinals have a clear advantage here.
Cubs pen had a better ERA than STL, led the league in avg against, and were third in xFIP last season
Wade Davis, Strop, Rendon, Carl Edwards are all cheesing 95+ heat. They added Uehara. Mike Montgomery from the left side
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:41 am to mizslu314
quote:
Arrieta is old news
If I posted Arrietas stats vs CMart you couldn't tell the difference
Posted on 4/4/17 at 9:41 am to Lester Earl
lolz
Right field?
Catcher?
Right field?
Catcher?
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