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re: The "blue blood" nfl teams

Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:35 pm to
Downvoted for posting facts.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:05 pm to
The Cleveland Browns franchise that became the Baltimore Ravens wouldn’t be a blue blood by fan support or support from the league, but they’re a very high quality franchise with a ton of history of winning. Being split across two cities and two names makes it seem non cohesive though

Ravens have 2 Super Bowls and 12 playoff appearances in little over 20 years
Browns between 45 and 95 had 8 championships and 27 playoff appearances in 50 years
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:31 pm to
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So Green Bay, Chicago and New York can count theirs but the Browns can’t? Got it. The Browns have 8 championships and there’s nothing you can do to change that.


I'm not changing anything. 4 of those championships are not NFL championships (as you initially labeled them), but rather from something called the All American Football Conference that played only 4 years and had a whole 8 teams.

Green Bay, Chicago and the Giants championships are all NFL championships, not from some minor, defunct league.

You're using the Alabama and Minnesota methods for counting championships. Don't be upset when called on it.
Posted by tigerlife36
Member since Sep 2016
781 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:42 am to
I would think the Redskins are right there with the Giants and Bears.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:52 am to
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So Green Bay, Chicago and New York can count theirs but the Browns can’t?

No the browns can.
But since then, NOTHING
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 10:59 am to
Like it or hate it, the blue bloods are:

-Steelers
-Packers
-Cowboys
-Giants
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:00 am to
I can agree with that
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:04 am to
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People will laugh, but historically speaking, the Browns and the Lions are two of the most historic franchises in the NFL. They absolutley dominated the first 3 decades of the NFL. Most people don’t realize the Browns went to 11 championship games. They have 8 NFL championships. They’ve just never been to a Super Bowl....heartbreakingly close, but never been. The Browns are like 5-6th all time in HoF inductees and top 10 all time wins I belive too. Cleveland had 11 losing seasons from 49’-95’...since they’ve come back in 99’, they have 19 losing seasons in 21 years. It’s. sad what’s happened to the Browns and the Lions.


And then the browns moved to Baltimore and became the ravens, who have stayed pretty successful. The Browns of today are expansion team restart suckage. NFL/art Modell screwed cleveland.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 11:06 am
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:05 am to
Is a blue blood a team with a rich history (eg. Lions, bears and browns) or a team with a national fan base (Steelers, cowboys). Or combination of both (packers)?

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:11 am to
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People will laugh, but historically speaking, the Browns and the Lions are two of the most historic franchises in the NFL. They absolutley dominated the first 3 decades of the NFL. Most people don’t realize the Browns went to 11 championship games. They have 8 NFL championships. They’ve just never been to a Super Bowl....heartbreakingly close, but never been. The Browns are like 5-6th all time in HoF inductees and top 10 all time wins I belive too. Cleveland had 11 losing seasons from 49’-95’...since they’ve come back in 99’, they have 19 losing seasons in 21 years. It’s. sad what’s happened to the Browns and the Lions.


Technically, that franchise is Baltimore not Cleveland.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:14 am to
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dunno...pre-merger championships are cool but it’s kind of like Minnesota or Army claiming NC’s


The Browns are as much a blueblood as Michigan football is.

ETA - and that really holds true if you go with the Browns-Ravens instead of the lawsuit driven Browns-Browns.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:14 am to
The blue bloods of the NFL since they are the oldest teams.

Lions
Chicago
Green Bay
Giants
Cardinals
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 11:17 am
Posted by The Midnight Rider
Where the River Empties
Member since May 2015
1576 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:20 am to
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I'd think 13 championships gets the Packers into the blue blood club...


lmao, IDGAF about nFL cHamPiONsHiPS when it was a bunch of white dudes playing each other and throwing the ball once every 50 snaps.

The Packers have won 4 Super Bowls, and only 2 since the 60s.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6407 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:55 am to
Browns, Lions and Giants all had 4 NFL championships prior to merger. If one is a blue-blood, all are blue-bloods.
Good argument for the Chiefs, due to their AFL work.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:58 am to
Yes. Plus the Steelers. Maybe Pat's.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71132 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 11:58 am to
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The Browns have 8 championships and there’s nothing you can do to change that.


10 championships.

They won two Super Bowls after the franchise moved to Baltimore.

Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71132 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:00 pm to
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The blue bloods of the NFL since they are the oldest teams.


So Rutgers is a blue blood of college football?
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72117 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:33 pm to
Steelers EASILY.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140859 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:39 pm to
They are of nobility since they started it and the definition also says that they've don't necessarily have to do anything of note or competence.

Strictly by definition, yes Rutgers is a blue blood. Read the definition of a blue blood.
This post was edited on 1/20/20 at 12:40 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/20/20 at 12:48 pm to
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I dunno...pre-merger championships are cool but it’s kind of like Minnesota or Army claiming NC’s



When do we get to start using this logic with the Cowboys?

They haven't been relevant on the field since the Clinton presidency.
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