re: The ATL Thread: Offseason

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You think giving up Quantrill and Naylor (who was hitting below .200 when he was traded) along with three non-top 10 prospects was too much for a pseudo-ace pitcher that had 3 more years of contract control?

You'd be a terrible GM.

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Quantrill has ace potential, and has been building back up from TJ surgery a couple of years ago. Naylor has less than 500 at bats at the major league level, and has been great in the minors. He's got tons of potential. His average this year was an insanely small sample size. You're not even attempting to be honest.

That's on TOP of the others guys they gave up who are highly regarded. The Braves had guys in their top 11-20 who were just outside the top 100 overall prospects at one time, and that's where the Padres farm system is at right now. Quantrill and Naylor were both top 100 prospects, who have just enough service time to fall off the prospect list.

You're just taking a quick glance, looking for guys in their top ten, not seeing it, and declaring that they gave up nothing.

That's just not knowing what you're talking about.

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And you said I'm the one being emotional.

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Because you are. I just, again, gave you facts. There is zero emotion in giving you information that you simply didn't know, didn't bother to research, and attempted to render an opinion without knowing more than you did.

Instead of saying "oh, I didn't know that, I guess they gave up more than I realized", you double down on your ignorance and accuse ME of being emotional.


The most emotional thing I could do is to act just like you and say "they should have gone out and got Clevinger! Who cares about prospects! Top 100 guys who don't show up on the prospect list because of service time? Counts as giving up nothing to me!".

That's you, in a nutshell.

Saying Quantrill has ace potential is facts?

Sounds like an opinion to me.


Also, I gave you facts about the prospect list and you doubled down.

You're doing everything you're accusing me of and then trying to label me as a person.

Last time I'll respond to you promise. You seem like someone who has to have the last word, so I'll let you have it.

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have no idea why you guys think we resign Ozuna.

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why sign Acuna and Albies to such team friendly deals if you aren't going to use those savings?

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I don’t think the Braves are bringing Ozuna back. Everybody was freaking out when Donaldson signed with the Twins but it worked out.

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ozuna was a beast and better than donaldson. if he is not brought back the whole front office needs to be cleaned out. if we have ownership not committed to winning and only making money we are fricked anyway for the forseable future. you have to spend money to win.

Kakes gone, bring up Drew Waters
Camargo stays as utility man
Wilson or Wright become 5th starter
Pache in CF for the next 15 years
Flowers gone, bring up Contreras

1.) Sign Bauer
2.) Re-sign Ozuna
3.) Re-sign Melancon
4.) Freddie Extension
5.) Add real depth to the bench
6.) Keep adding studs to the bullpen

At the end of the day, I think Snit got the most out of this roster. we took the Dodgers to 7 games and could have gotten to the World Series. Losing sucks but you have to look at from a lot of different angels.

This was a great experience for this young team, and they should be better because of it.

At the end of the day, the Dodgers were a deeper team. Once we got past Swanson in our lineup, I felt like Riley and Pache were over-matched, and Markakis is what he is.

The Dodgers did a better job of working deep into counts, putting stress and pressure on our pitchers... and getting the timely hits. The Braves can learn a lot from this series.

In 12 post-season games, a Rookie started 7 of those games and an 8th game was started by a relief pitcher. And with the exception of 1 game, those guys pitched their tails off and gave us a chance.

I'm hopeful that AA will go out and make some great additions to this team.

- Bauer will probably require at least 5 years and $140m
- Ozuna will probably get 5 years and $130m, maybe more
- Melancon probably 2 years and $20 mill
- Freddie 5 years and $130m

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Bauer will probably require at least 5 years and $140m

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Bauer has openly stated that he wants to take one year deals for the rest of his career.

Braves FO when the two teams left have outstanding starting pitching once again