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The Athletic's 2023 QB Tiers.

Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:10 pm
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Patrick Mahomes has no equal in this 10th edition of the Quarterback Tiers, although AFC rival Joe Burrow is close behind. Mahomes, Burrow and Josh Allen all overtook Aaron Rodgers. Justin Herbert is lurking. Is Jalen Hurts on track to join the exclusive Tier 1 ranks, reserved for the very best?

The 2023 Quarterback Tiers results are here, complete with commentary from the 50 NFL coaches and executives who were granted anonymity to share unvarnished evaluations. This year, the 50 league insiders who placed 30 veteran quarterbacks into tiers included eight general managers, 10 head coaches, 15 coordinators, 10 executives, four quarterbacks coaches and three involved in coaching/analytics.


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Tier 1:
1) #Chiefs Patrick Mahomes
2) #Bengals Joe Burrow
3) #Bills Josh Allen
4) #Jets Aaron Rodgers
5) #Chargers Justin Herbert

Tier 2:
6) #Eagles Jalen Hurts
7) #Ravens Lamar Jackson
8) #Jaguars Trevor Lawrence
9) #Cowboys Dak Prescott
10) #Rams Matthew Stafford
11) #Browns Deshaun Watson
12) #Vikings Kirk Cousins

Tier 3:
13) #Cardinals Kyler Murray
14) #Saints    Derek Carr
15) #Lions Jared Goff
16) #Broncos Russell Wilson
17) #Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa
18) #Raiders Jimmy Garoppolo
19) #Giants Daniel Jones
20) #Seahawks    Geno Smith
21) #Bears Justin Fields
22) #Titans    Ryan Tannehill
23) #Patriots Mac Jones

Tier 4:
24) #49ers Brock Purdy
25) #Steelers Kenny Pickett
26) #Packers Jordan Love
27) #Bucs Baker Mayfield
28) #Commanders Sam Howell
29) #Falcons Desmond Ridder
30) #Colts Gardner Minshew



The Athletic Article
Posted by Sterling Archer
Member since Aug 2012
8378 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:16 pm to
Dak in tier 2 jumped out at me first. He was pretty bad last year.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78328 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:17 pm to
Is Kurt Cousin a elite quaterback?
Posted by Nonetheless
MAGA
Member since Jan 2012
34406 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:18 pm to
tua too low
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111389 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:19 pm to
Unless they are counting injuries against him, Tua needs to top of tier 2. Being in tier 3 is a joke
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6407 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:26 pm to
Tier 3 should start at around #8.
Posted by Ssubba
Member since Oct 2014
7453 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:26 pm to
I'm taking Tua over Hurts, Dak, Cousins, and probably even Deshaun Watson.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42264 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:28 pm to
I’m guessing they are saying Watson will get back to houston production because he certainly wasn’t tier 2 last year
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130226 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:28 pm to
Is Lamar Jackson at 7 laughable, or a complete indictment of QB play in the NFL?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122799 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:29 pm to
Have we forgotten that Watson hasn’t done shite in three seasons?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42264 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:30 pm to
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Is Lamar Jackson at 7 laughable, or a complete indictment of QB play in the NFL?


I thought the same thing, but who are you taking over him?
Posted by Julz5198
Member since Mar 2023
575 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:31 pm to
Rogers to tier 2. Hurts to tier 1 and Dak to tier 100
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:57 pm to
Move Rodgers and Herbert down. Deshaun down.

What has Mac Jones ever done to be in a tier above Baker Mayfield?
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:57 pm to
I love how your "even" guy is Deshaun Watson, clearly the worst QB on the list you gave
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 12:58 pm to
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Dak in tier 2 jumped out at me first. He was pretty bad last year.



28 years since the Cowboys have made it past the 2nd round of the playoffs.
Posted by TrussvilleTide
The Endless Void
Member since Sep 2021
4069 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:00 pm to
He has done a ton, just not on the field
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
34684 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:15 pm to
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Unless they are counting injuries against him, Tua needs to top of tier 2. Being in tier 3 is a joke


A lot of them are giving him that low score due to how good his supporting cast is.

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Tagovailoa, like Jared Goff and some others, has experienced wild swings in offensive play design and supporting talent. That can sometimes cloud how much credit or blame the player actually deserves.

“Having a chance to go against him from his rookie year to where he is now, the accuracy is definitely a strength and he has a little bit of mobility, but when you just have (average) guys at receiver, he can become very average,” a defensive coach said. “If you don’t allow him to throw the ball on time, he could be very suspect. When teams get up and slow down Tyreek (Hill) and that No. 17 (Jaylen Waddle), you saw the deficiencies in Tua’s game. He is a timing thrower, ball has to come out on time, very little disruption, and that to me puts him as a 3.”

“Sometimes it seems that people will use the same argument to build a guy up and to tear a guy down,” another coach said. “If they like him, they will say the player has no one around him. Then the team will get players around him, and people say the only reason he is succeeding it is because he has players around him. The guy doesn’t have any coaching. He gets coaching. Then they say it’s only because they got coaching. You still have to make the plays.”
Posted by WhoDat9090
Member since Oct 2019
1706 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:22 pm to
I am taking Daniel Jones over Stafford, Watson, Cousins, Carr, Goff, Wilson and Garoppolo
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
16984 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:49 pm to
Flip Cousins and Tua around and I can live with these ratings. I might nitpick some of them but they aren't nuts.
Posted by lsuguy84
Madisonville
Member since Feb 2009
27319 posts
Posted on 7/31/23 at 1:53 pm to
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16) #Broncos Russell Wilson


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