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re: The ACC is about crumble

Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:56 am to
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
1852 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 11:56 am to
quote:

I know Florida generally dislikes Fla State,

Our president supports FSU joining the SEC. But I'm sure they'll take the coward way out again and join the B10.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62790 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

UVA


Do they have a football program? I didn’t notice if they did

UVa football is best described as a mix of Vanderbilt and Mississippi State.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
22799 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:30 pm to
The way college sports has morphed into inferior minor league sports is disappointing. I would be down with it crashing down.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20405 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

Yeah Georgia tech brings absolutely nothing to the table. FSU, Clemson and UNC are the only schools worth looking at.

The way I see it, we already have our power teams.

If you're gonna expand, I can see UNC and someone else. What do they bring?
Wins for Bama, UGA, Texas etc. You need W's for the power teams.

So you also want them to bring something else to the conference, UNC brings basketball.

You also want geographic continuity, for the other sports. Let the Big 10 try to figure out how UCLA plays Rutgers in softball and other sports. Teams are already exploring partial memberships in other conferences, for sports outside football there.
The SEC is still all sports, for the most part (I think Mizzou is Big 12 in wrestling for example).

If the Big 10 thinks they can add teams in the South, to go with their West Coast teams, let them play that game. it won't last.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95552 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

The SEC is still all sports, for the most part (I think Mizzou is Big 12 in wrestling for example).


Men’s soccer isn’t a thing, as Kentucky is in the Fun Belt for that one.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33095 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:42 pm to
I hate expansion but it’s pretty obvious that UNC is the big prize for the SEC.
Posted by Bob Sacamano
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
5277 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:43 pm to
I said this would happen a while back. They are a good fit
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10880 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Our president supports FSU joining the SEC. But I'm sure they'll take the coward way out again and join the B10.


I know ESPN doesn’t havethe money to pony up solo, at least not in the amount FSU is hoping.

And I don’t know if the triad has the capital to add FSU such that it pays the dividends the 4-Pac does.

Unless Clemson also leaves to make it a Two-Team package, FSU isn’t in the drivers seat anymore
Posted by RuckMaul1
Member since Sep 2022
299 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:11 pm to
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I've never understood the lust for UVA or UNC other than hoops and feigned academic "prestige" which is never what the SEC has been about.



Yeah when I imagine an SEC education, academics don't come to mind.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63327 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:18 pm to
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This is the first time in the ACC-FSU dispute that the ACC has agreed to NEGOTIATE with the Noles, marking a big step forward for Florida State
So how much would FSU have to pay in a settlement? Many experts in the realignment field believe that it could cost the Noles UNDER $100M...


Why would the ACC agree to this?

quote:

B12 also could take up to 4 schools.



Talk about a conference rising from the ashes.
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
29170 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:21 pm to
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Info based on a Friday Tampa Bay Times report:


Do you have the actual link to this article? Can’t find anything substantiative.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49289 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

Not sure why anyone thinks having two power conferences with 20+ teams is good for college football.

Regionality is what made college football.


I hate it.

Penn State is still an outsider to me and they've been in the B1G for 30 years.
Posted by OWLFAN86
The OT has made me richer
Member since Jun 2004
175895 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:33 pm to
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Regionality is what made college football.

your neighbor, best friend could be a rival

EVERY year there was a day,, now most days are just a game until the committee votes
Posted by RunningJacket
Member since Dec 2008
253 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 2:54 pm to
GT bringing the BIG to the heart of the SES isn’t something y’all want. Recruits would get siphoned off. UGA definitely doesn’t want Ohio St, Mich, and ND playing in Atlanta every year.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9598 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 3:38 pm to
Too bad the B1G doesn't want GT either. Maybe try your pitch to the AAC or Big 12.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
7464 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:23 pm to
Isn’t there a new play off contract that guarantees an auto bid to the ACC? If so, let FSU walk, get some money for it, invite a replacement school, and keep your auto bid.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125410 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:31 pm to
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VT is a great fit for the SEC. Absolutely passionate fans and top programs in the sports that matter and patriotic as hell. Think of a more normal A&M.


VT was a flash in the pan program for 20 years

Now that Frank is gone it’s in free fall and the passionate fans you speak of isn’t what it used to be especially with younger fans. VT at the end of the day is still are regional school in VA that exploded in popularity after MV7 but those years are over.
Posted by tigeroarz1
Winston-Salem, NC
Member since Oct 2013
3375 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:32 pm to
quote:

Do you have the actual link to this article? Can’t find anything substantiative.
Also, a ton of articles came out today stating the ACC wanted the trial in Florida thrown out (I believe this is the one the OP is referring to). They want to proceed with the lawsuit against FSU in North Carolina and it doesn’t sound like they are backing down at all. It is confusing.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6873 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:33 pm to
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If so, let FSU walk, get some money for it, invite a replacement school, and keep your auto bid.


They've already brought in the replacement schools for FSU and UNC leaving - it's why they added Stanford, Cal, and SMU.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6873 posts
Posted on 2/17/24 at 4:34 pm to
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They want to proceed with the lawsuit against FSU in North Carolina and it doesn’t sound like they are backing down at all. It is confusing.


Nothing helps your settlement position like having the upper hand in the litigation.
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