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re: The 154th Open - Ryan Fox (meh) is your champion golfer of the year

Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:47 pm to
There’s a video on ziregolf where he pretty clearly stamps on the fescue to knock it down.

But I don’t think Bryson is the first to do that either, I think he was just the most visible.


ETA: Looks like it got pulled of zire.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 3:51 pm
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:48 pm to
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Just moving away a little loose impediment

That’s what I’m wondering. How something like that is legal but what Bryson did (to grass) isn’t.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:51 pm to
I think whether or not it’s a penalty is not the bigger issue here. The bigger issue is that it took the time from when he played the 5th hole until he finished his round, plus an additional 90 minutes to resolve this. Something like this shouldn’t take that long.

Bryson, we think you committed a penalty here, do you want to call it on yourself? Yes, ok. No, ok go to the video and we’ll decide.

Is there conclusive evidence it was committed, yes, penalty, no, no penalty.

That should not take 5 hours as they should’ve had the answer to the second question long before his round was over.
Posted by Swagga
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:52 pm to
Certainly don’t disagree there. The USGA & R&A do themselves no favors in these situations.

I always think back to DJ in the final round at Oakmont where the USGA told him he may or may not be penalized while he’s on the back 9 of the final group.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:52 pm to


I didn’t make him go over there and flatten the 1 clump of grass that would keep him from hitting the ball

How about this.

Let’s say that tall clump was the ONLY grass over there above 6 inches. Would he be allowed to go squash it down with his feet?

Or would he, by rule, need to view his line from behind the ball while sidestepping that clump and staying in the shorter stuff?

From what I saw, it was the only grass that would be in his way. And he flattened it.

What do the rules say about that? I’m also ok if they don’t call it a penalty. I don’t hate Bryson and can sometimes even pull for him.
Posted by 9Fiddy
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:52 pm to
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That’s what I’m wondering. How something like that is legal but what Bryson did (to grass) isn’t.

The rock wasn’t growing in the ground. It was just heavy.

The grass is attached to the ground.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:55 pm to
Is that like hitting behind a scoreboard and walking it backward 60 yards to make sure you can get it over it, see the pin, and put it in a better-manicured pasture, as some cheater idol of yours did?
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 3:56 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:55 pm to
Didn’t the USGA catch hell for telling Lexi Thompson mid round that they called a penalty on her?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:57 pm to
I think there’s a rule where if an organization places a wall between where your ball is and your target, you can go backwards to avoid smacking your ball into the wall that the organization placed there.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 3:59 pm to
No, the idiot took it over to the driving range, completely out of the natural part of the course.


Get your facts correct. It was an unplayable lie. He picked it up and took it to the driving range to get a better view and angle on the pin. I think it was the 17 Open, right?


I remember one year in a Playoff at the Hope Desert Classic, the players kept hitting it on purpose under the stands to get a drop or free relief that was right off the green, but they could only stay within a 4-foot circle.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Nature Boy
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:01 pm to
I’m torn on this but one thing is certain: Brandel and the elf’s opinion on this matter is as certain as the sun coming up tomorrow.
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:03 pm to
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I’m torn on this but one thing is certain: Brandel and the elf’s opinion on this matter is as certain as the sun coming up tomorrow.


Yeah it’s borderline. You see it pretty often but it did look like he stepped on the stuff behind his ball that could catch his club a couple of different times.

That’s what will get him I think.
This post was edited on 7/17/26 at 4:04 pm
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:04 pm to
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No, the idiot took it over to the driving range, completely out of the natural part of the course. Get your facts correct. It was an unplayable lie. He picked it up and took it to the driving range to get a better view and angle on the pin. I think it was the 17 Open, right?
Officials just let him do something THAT illegal per the rules?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:07 pm to
I think the R&A says he "manipulated" the rule to gain an advantage. I cannot recall the exact wording right now. But I do remember being like, "WTF is this?" when it happened.
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:11 pm to
Brandel happy as a clam to shite on Bryson
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:11 pm to
This penalty is complete bullshite the grass came back up the shortness of his swing that grass was a non factor horrible ruling
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:12 pm to
Anyway, Reauxl, hope all is good in the Bay Area. I will try to hop on during play tomorrow.

Everyone else, enjoy your evening and golf chat!
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:12 pm to
Bryson undecided on playing third round haha
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:16 pm to


Good to talk to you my man
Posted by JamalMurry27
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Posted on 7/17/26 at 4:17 pm to
He was he supposed to look at his shot? Without walking on grass? It was a chip/hack out 50 yard ish shot if it was a longer shot this improving the lie would be a bigger deal I don’t believe he affected anything and it didn’t affect his shot either. I guess you shouldn’t be able to walk to your ball in the sand cause you might be moving sand molecules
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