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re: T or F: Babe Ruth Hit longest dinger in MLB history (575 ft)
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:11 pm to 3morereps
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:11 pm to 3morereps
Saw Canseco hit one 440 at Fenway vs Tigers circa mid 90s.
Ruth's swing was unorthodox. It had a lurch forward. Don't see how that would help generate bat speed.
Babe Ruth / Lou Gehrig Batting Practice 1931
Ruth's swing was unorthodox. It had a lurch forward. Don't see how that would help generate bat speed.
Babe Ruth / Lou Gehrig Batting Practice 1931
This post was edited on 3/20/20 at 10:16 pm
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Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:11 pm to gthog61
Not that kind of colored you racist.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:31 pm to michael corleone
I am pretty sure Madison Baumgartner broke the World Series scoreless in record about 5 years or so ago. I remember watching sportscenter when the graphic came up and the host was pretty much like, "yes, that Babe Ruth was a pitcher and held the record for 90+ years."
I am torn on this, I find it plausible that Ruth hit multiple 500+ ft home runs, but probably never one that went 575+, while on the other hand he was the best baseball player ever to live and as previously stated, was using a heavy bat shadings 80 mph fastballs.
I am torn on this, I find it plausible that Ruth hit multiple 500+ ft home runs, but probably never one that went 575+, while on the other hand he was the best baseball player ever to live and as previously stated, was using a heavy bat shadings 80 mph fastballs.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:32 pm to 3morereps
I think Pujols off Lidge still hasn’t landed
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:38 pm to AlwysATgr
Ruth modeled his swing after Shoeless Joe.
He also used a 44-ounce bat that he said was 35 inches. Earlier he used a longer bat which didn't generate enough speed.
In Babe's own words he said he used bats anywhere from 40-54 ounces.
Ruth used a 36-inch, 45-ounce bat to hit his first homerun in Yankee Stadium.
This is Bryce Harper swinging a 35-inch, 47-ounce bat in a practice cage... YouTube
He also used a 44-ounce bat that he said was 35 inches. Earlier he used a longer bat which didn't generate enough speed.
In Babe's own words he said he used bats anywhere from 40-54 ounces.
Ruth used a 36-inch, 45-ounce bat to hit his first homerun in Yankee Stadium.
This is Bryce Harper swinging a 35-inch, 47-ounce bat in a practice cage... YouTube
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:41 pm to 3morereps
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Babe Ruth
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bambino
Yankees player?
Then it is the truth
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:44 pm to TigerAlumni2010
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80 mph fastballs.
I have no idea why this shite keeps getting repeated.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 10:46 pm to MickeyLikesDags21
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just find it hard to believe that he did something a hundred years ago that no one in the modern Era, in the pinnacle of nutrition / strength & sports training, has been able to match.
Could he have? Sure.. Maybe. But gun to my head I'm putting my money on no way
For three straight years, ‘19-21, Ruth led the league in homers and more than doubled the second most.
1919: Ruth hit 29. Second was Gavvy Cravath with 12.
1920: Ruth hit 54. Second was George Sisler with 19.
1921: Ruth hit 59. Two sluggers hit 24.
All I’m saying is, the guy did stuff that was unprecedented. There’s no statistical reason to doubt that he could do it.
Posted on 3/20/20 at 11:26 pm to 3morereps
Maybe when it came to a stop after rolling down a hill
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:32 am to Tangineck
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No way IMO. I seriously doubt anyone actually hit the ball further than McGwire, Canseco, Bonds, etc. at the height of the steroid era.
Why is it so hard to believe? Only 8 of the top 20 in total home runs are from the steroid era. Ruth was just a different ball player, there has never been anyone like him since. He could win 20 games pitching, hit for average and hit 50 home runs.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 12:48 am to TexasTiger08
The lively ball wasn't introduced until 1920 or was it 1921? So the 1919 total, and likely the 1920 total were with the dead ball and the still legal spitball.
Remember, too, that a baseball was used until it couldn't be used any longer. They chewed and spit tobacco and coffee beans on the field, and would spit that all over the ball, too. Those baseballs were "black as your hat" (an old player quoted in The Glory of Their Times)
They would retrieve the ball wherever it went. That same player I quoted said they wouldn't use but five or so baseballs per game. 29 homeruns with that old deadball, that was black as anything coming to the plate? Guy was an absolute freak of nature with amazing talent.
Remember, too, that a baseball was used until it couldn't be used any longer. They chewed and spit tobacco and coffee beans on the field, and would spit that all over the ball, too. Those baseballs were "black as your hat" (an old player quoted in The Glory of Their Times)
They would retrieve the ball wherever it went. That same player I quoted said they wouldn't use but five or so baseballs per game. 29 homeruns with that old deadball, that was black as anything coming to the plate? Guy was an absolute freak of nature with amazing talent.
This post was edited on 3/21/20 at 12:49 am
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:02 am to offshoretrash
There is ancient Greek records of an Olympian jumping 23 feet (before Christ.)
The first modern record in 1901 was 25 feet in 1901.
Then 30 years later Jesse Owens jumped 26 feet.
Then Bob Beamon (at sea level) jumped 29 feet 30 years later.
That record wasn't broken for another 23 years despite all the so-called awesome nutrition and eating and weight-training, etc...everything espoused by the "today's athlete is 10X better than just 10 years ago" crowd.
People think what happened 100 years ago is ancient and that athletes were horrible...and that great athlete is just a recent occcurance. That humans evolve immensely every year...ala LeBron is the Goat because Jordan played 20 years ago...and he's outdated.
Evolution doesn't work that way. Modern equipment has helped; modern surfaces, springboard tracks and shoes instead of just spikes and dirt have helped shave the 100M dash records...and drugs of course.
But humans aren't drastically different from 100 years ago except changes in height and being predominately fatter.
The first modern record in 1901 was 25 feet in 1901.
Then 30 years later Jesse Owens jumped 26 feet.
Then Bob Beamon (at sea level) jumped 29 feet 30 years later.
That record wasn't broken for another 23 years despite all the so-called awesome nutrition and eating and weight-training, etc...everything espoused by the "today's athlete is 10X better than just 10 years ago" crowd.
People think what happened 100 years ago is ancient and that athletes were horrible...and that great athlete is just a recent occcurance. That humans evolve immensely every year...ala LeBron is the Goat because Jordan played 20 years ago...and he's outdated.
Evolution doesn't work that way. Modern equipment has helped; modern surfaces, springboard tracks and shoes instead of just spikes and dirt have helped shave the 100M dash records...and drugs of course.
But humans aren't drastically different from 100 years ago except changes in height and being predominately fatter.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 1:08 am to RedPop4
The ball was black during the dead ball era.
Literally black.
Watch the Ken Burns doc. They scuffed it, spit tobacco juice on it and rubbed licorice on it.
They used 3 or 4 balls a game. Now it's a new ball every other batter.
Baseball didn't require a new ball into the game until a player got beaned in the head and died because he couldn't see the ball.
Once they cleaned the ball up, Ruth took off. The game opened up. But pitchers had a tremendous advantage, they could do whatever they wanted with the ball.
Literally black.
Watch the Ken Burns doc. They scuffed it, spit tobacco juice on it and rubbed licorice on it.
They used 3 or 4 balls a game. Now it's a new ball every other batter.
Baseball didn't require a new ball into the game until a player got beaned in the head and died because he couldn't see the ball.
Once they cleaned the ball up, Ruth took off. The game opened up. But pitchers had a tremendous advantage, they could do whatever they wanted with the ball.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:24 am to 3morereps
False.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 6:25 am to offshoretrash
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Why is it so hard to believe?
Just simple physics. The Babe was obviously a much better baseball player than the any of the players I listed, but that doesn't change the fact that 575 feet is an impossible distance to hit a baseball. A league full of juiced players would have needed an extra 50 feet or 10% to duplicate it. Think about that.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:11 am to 3morereps
False.
Like a hand-timed 40 vs laser-timed 40.
Like a hand-timed 40 vs laser-timed 40.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:49 am to 3morereps
Pops once hit one completely out of Dodger Stadium.
Posted on 3/21/20 at 7:59 am to MickeyLikesDags21
quote:maybe Ruth was ahead of his times at his approach at the plate and with weaker pitching he was able to dominate. Imagine if you picked babe right out of his prime in the mid 1920s and plopped him down in Major League Baseball today. If the guy is good enough just to even start in todays baseball means back 100 years ago he was probably hitting moonshots off everybody. So my argument isn’t that guys got bigger. It’s that pitching got better.
just find it hard to believe that he did something a hundred years ago that no one in the modern Era, in the pinnacle of nutrition / strength & sports training, has been able to match. Could he have? Sure.. Maybe. But gun to my head I'm putting my money on no way
Posted on 3/21/20 at 8:02 am to Bestbank Tiger
I don’t trust the whole projected distance theory. Example is the Canseco HR below. I’m not saying it’s the longest, but how do we truly know how far it would have gone.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 3/21/20 at 8:36 am to 3morereps
False. Old time sports claims a bunch of ridiculous feats. And nobody could call them out on it because they had no way to accurately measure.
Old time baseball also claims someone named Steve Dalkowski could throw 115 mph.
Old time baseball also claims someone named Steve Dalkowski could throw 115 mph.
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