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re: Successful College Programs that were laid to waste when they ran off/fired their HC

Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:56 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89584 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 10:56 am to
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I’m talking about the playoffs not a meaningless game in week 1


ok cool, but tha'ts not what the actual conversation taking place was about. Other guy said what if clemson wins the ACC, I said it would just show the ACC champion is that much worse than the SEC's elite. You talking about playoffs has nothing to do with that converstaion.

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In my mind, the teams that have the most to lose with a singular injury are UGA with Beck, Bama with Milroe, and Ole Miss with Dart. No other teams are as reliant on singular players as those three.


that's a strange take. What makes you think UGA/Bama/OM's #2 QB is so much worse than OSU/Texas/Oregon/etc's #2 QBs? Any team in america losing their starting QB would suck arse.

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exas, Ohio State, Oregon, and other top teams don’t rely on their #1 guy as much and have guys on the sideline who could produce.


what guys on the sideline? Why are those teams' able to withstand losing their starting QB but UGA can't?
Posted by Boodis Man
Member since Sep 2020
7255 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:24 am to
Instead of firing Dabo, all Clemson has to do is mandate him to use the portal. That way they can be an elite qb and all of a sudden they are back in business. It’s really not that hard
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 11:25 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89584 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:30 am to
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Instead of firing Dabo, all Clemson has to do is mandate him to use the portal.


but then dabo would give up the fake moral high ground that he loves so much.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39016 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:43 am to
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Firing Solich was more egregious and the actual beginning of the end.


He's the modern poster-child and the one that immediately came to mind.

Nebraska still had their unique thing going but they were so brainwashed and giddy-delusional over their breakthrough in the 90s and 3 titles and success at a level they'd never had before....they treated that ridiculously unrepeatable high-bar as the norm.

Saban wouldn't have appeased Nebraska's lust and unrealistic long-term view of themselves. You're gonna have some ups and downs, its CFB....Osborne did, Bobby Bowden, Paterno, and many more....you'll have lean years....Oklahoma, USC, Miami in the 90s. That's CFB.

"Solich's 58 wins during his first six seasons as Nebraska's head coach exceeded those of his predecessors, Bob Devaney (53 wins) and Osborne (55 wins), both of whom are in the College Football Hall of Fame."

I remember when Nebraska fired Solich, the AD told the media, "we're not just going to sit back and concede the Big12 to Texas".

By the way....Solich's career record is 173-101. His 115 wins at Ohio are the most ever by a MAC head coach.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 11:46 am
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
37148 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 11:48 am to
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Southern Miss was always seemed solid under Bowers.


Yep that was a big mistake
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12646 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:02 pm to
LSU-Will Wade
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41446 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:06 pm to
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All that matters are conference games in the regular season and then playoff games. The rest are scrimmages.


Maybe in 1 bid leagues like the ACC, but in conferences that will get multiple teams in, OOC games will play a big factor.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5839 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:09 pm to
Frank Solich being fired from Nebraska was an affront
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5874 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:23 pm to
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If Richt's UGA temas played in the ACC they undoubtedly have at least 1 title.

If the playoff existed during Richt’s tenure, he has 2 titles.
Posted by moontigr
Commanders/LA Kings/Detroit Tigers
Member since Nov 2020
7025 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:31 pm to
Nebraska fans were spoiled and used to championships and even though it was obvious that Solich was headed in the wrong direction, they should've been happy with 9 wins a year and New Year's Day bowls. LSU fans are now in a similar predicament, with many wanting to run off their HC because he can't win the big one. Be careful what you wish for...
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39929 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:37 pm to
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Instead of firing Dabo, all Clemson has to do is mandate him to use the portal. That way they can be an elite qb and all of a sudden they are back in business. It’s really not that hard



i think part of his grandstanding is that he knows Clemson doesn't have the money to compete. So he is zagging and hoping to recruit players who will commit for 3 years instead of getting into NIL bidding wars that aren't winnable at Clemson



Posted by Dairy Sanders
Member since Apr 2022
2963 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:42 pm to
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All that matters are conference games in the regular season and then playoff games. The rest are scrimmages


Lol
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
194672 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:47 pm to
aggies
Slocum
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15248 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:51 pm to
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All that matters are conference games in the regular season and then playoff games. The rest are scrimmages


You couldn't be more wrong. November is going to be incredible because there will going to be about 20 teams fighting for about 7 spots. There is going to be more meaningful late season games than ever before. Every game matters.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
28359 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 12:54 pm to
When Syracuse fired Paul Pasqualoni they hired Greg Robinson and then entered the Dark Ages. It's been a struggle ever since.
Posted by ChestRockwell
In the heart of horse country
Member since Jul 2021
7028 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 1:50 pm to
Tulane firing Vince Gibson
Posted by crazyatthecamp
Member since Nov 2006
2264 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:03 pm to
Jim Leonhard and Paul Chryst at Wisconsin.

The jury is still out about Fickell.

But I am concerned.

Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
4584 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:22 pm to
Mullen had won 30 games his last 3 seasons. The Florida administration should all be fired and that’s coming from an LSU. College football was better when Florida was relevant.
This post was edited on 9/4/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
17457 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 2:32 pm to
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Maybe the game should be played first before you declare a 4 TD winner.

They already played the game. And lost by 4 TDs
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
11938 posts
Posted on 9/4/24 at 3:00 pm to
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LSU fans are now in a similar predicament, with many wanting to run off their HC because he can't win the big one. Be careful what you wish for...


They can want in one hand and shite in the other and see which fills up first. BK ain't going nowhere for at least 2 years.
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