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re: So there is basically 1 at large a spot left correct? And it’s between Miami/ND/Tx Tech?

Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:16 am to
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:16 am to
Yes BYU winning would steal one at large spot away.

Assuming Texas Tech wins you have one spot to play with.

Vandy is who should get it.
Miami is who should get it next.
Notre Dame is definitely last but will be the team to actually get it.
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4886 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:16 am to
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I don't think ND should be left out but what's their best win?


USC and …. Navy. Or perhaps mighty Pitt

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OU beat current #10 Bama on the road.


They’ll just tell you that’s just SEC bias…

I think Notre Dame is one of the best teams, but right now, they should just shut up and sit quietly in their corner while hoping, for ease, both BYU and Alabama lose.

They did this to themselves … they lost their two “marquee” games, played a very weak schedule overall, and have no additional conference championship (which is kind of bullshite Alabama has to suit up and bang their heads against UGA and could potentially lose and be bounced while ND sits on its arse).

Again, I think they’re one of the best teams out there, probably top 5, but it feels like the past month or so, teams are playing extremely big time, meaningful hard hitting and exiting games and Notre Dame’s over there playing Stanford, Boston College, Syracuse and such …. And save me from the “Pitt” big game b.s.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 8:34 am
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6400 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 8:25 am to
OU kinda reminds me of our 2006 team (although that offense was more talented and Chris Leak had a higher floor). We played a lot of close games with razor thin margins and no one gave us a chance against Ohio St in the title game. OU's got more than enough talent to beat anyone right now as long as their defense keeps creating turnovers.
Posted by deltadummy
Member since Mar 2025
1430 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:13 am to
We shouldn't get in if we lose since we can barely avoid using all three timeouts in one fricking quarter. That's as much an indictment as the FSU loss.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45544 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:16 am to
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Vandy should get in over Oklahoma

If Vandy’s name was something different they would already be ranked above Miami and Utah.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45544 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:20 am to
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If head to head doesn't matter, then why are we playing the games to begin with?


Same reason OU has to be ahead of Bama, and Bama has to be ahead of Vandy. So even though it feels like Vandy should get in over OU, the head to head transitive property is keeping them out.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
82881 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:20 am to
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If UGA loses to the same team twice, do they deserve to be in?


Absolutely not.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19159 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:30 am to
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3 ranked wins should not equal playoffs to counter a two TD loss to a 5-7 team.


How many ranked wins does Indiana, Oregon have?

You guys are funny with your "anyone but Bama" confirmation bias where you pretzel logic and spin in an attempt to only disqualify the one team you hate most
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
7895 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:37 am to
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The auto-bid is for the 5 highest “ranked” conference champs.


You don't have to be ranked in top 25.

If they aren't ranked in the top 25, the Committee will still rank the remaining conference champions to see who is the 5th highest ranked conference champion.

Here's the rule:

"CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS RANKINGS
If fewer than five conference champions are among the top 25 on Selection Day, then the committee will rank the remaining conference champions. The highest ranked of those teams will be added to the playoff until five conference champions are included in the playoff. A conference champion(s) from outside the top 12 will be placed at the bottom of the 12-team seeding in rank order."
Posted by JeniverJonez
Maryland
Member since Jul 2021
159 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:41 am to
I think the OP is correct. Remember the committee oversold the ACC last year at the expense of the Big-12. They know it was a mistake to put SMU in over BYU. SMU and Clemson both got smoked, but ASU played Texas to OT. They have rated the Big-12 much higher than the AP, Coaches and almost everyone else this year.

So if BYU wins then Tech takes the last spot to give the conference 2 teams. However, I don't think it will happen. Tech spent their money well and have one of the best defenses in college football at all levels. I think Tech will beat BYU by more than 10 or worse.

If Tech can keep Morton healthy they have a realistic chance to win the whole thing which I hope happens because it will force the SEC/B1G to rethink the "spend your way" to a National Title model. It will prove any billionaire who is bored can turn their college team into a national title winner in one or two years.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 9:45 am
Posted by Complete Linebacking
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2004
1058 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 9:58 am to
How is ND in over Vandy? Both teams have the same record, Vandy has a tougher SOS, and Vandys only losses are on the road. Playoff selection process is bullshite. Why can’t we just have the best 12 teams. Let the computers decide. Committee sucks.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5036 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 10:09 am to

Yeah, Texas Tech is a lock. They have 11 wins, a good resume and they rank in the top 5 of the composite computer rankings (which I know aren't officially used but provide an objective talking point). Plus, they already waxed BYU this season so even if they lose a close title game rematch, that shouldn't knock them out. A 3 loss Bama is the likely victim of this scenario.

I'm also not 100% sold that Tulane/N. Texas is a play in game. The AP and coaches poll have been ranking James Madison ahead of both of them. If North Texas wins an ugly game and James Madison blows out Troy, we could see JMU get the auto bid.
Posted by GeauxPanthers2
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Dec 2024
1018 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 10:25 am to
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If Vandy’s name was something different they would already be ranked above Miami and Utah.

Vandy will have 1 win over a team in the CFP Top 25, and that's assuming Tennessee stays ranked. Decent chance they will have zero Top 25 wins. Maybe rank them over Miami and Utah, sure, but they still don't deserve to be in the playoffs.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 10:28 am
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36386 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:02 am to
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How is ND in over Vandy? Both teams have the same record, Vandy has a tougher SOS, and Vandys only losses are on the road. Playoff selection process is bullshite. Why can’t we just have the best 12 teams. Let the computers decide. Committee sucks.


There’s a lot of irony within this post because ND is top-5 in basically every computer metric (FPI, Sagarin, SP+, FEI, Vegas Power Rankings, etc.) and would be favored by 4-5 points over Vandy on a neutral field. ND is clearly one of the 12 “best” and would be easily in the field if it was solely based on computers and not based at all on a committee that also considers resume/“most deserving”.

ND’s strength of record is 13th. That’s probably the most accurate “most deserving” metric, and then you can add ranked wins and ranked and/or bad losses on top of it when further deciding “most deserving”.

The committee putting ND 9th is basically splitting the difference between ND’s “best” ranking (around 5th) and ND’s “most deserving” ranking (around 13th). It seems like finding that balance in the middle is more-or-less what the committee has been trying to do when ranking every program.
This post was edited on 11/30/25 at 11:05 am
Posted by NWLATigerFan12
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
13290 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 11:38 am to
If Kiffin leaves, do they leave Ole Miss out? They’ve left out teams for an injured player. Why not leave them out for losing their HC/play caller?



Note: I think it would be total BS to do that because the kids earned the shot. Just being devils advocate for the precedent the committee has already set.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20089 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 4:24 pm to
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Vandy should jump Alabama before OU

Vandy isn’t jumping either.

Bama beat them head to head and OU has much better wins against a tougher schedule.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50752 posts
Posted on 11/30/25 at 10:46 pm to
The fact that UNT is even in the mix is mind blowing. Seems like a strength of schedule requirement for a team to be at least in the top half of all teams' strength of schedule should be enacted.

Per Sagarin's SOS rankings, the average strength of schedule ranking of the current top 11 teams is approximately 31. Alabama's is #8. OU had the 10th hardest. LSU's was ranked 9th hardest.

North Texas' SOS was the 104th hardest. They played a bunch of nobodies. This is a serious flaw in the playoffs. Non group of five teams should not be in the playoffs.
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1285 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 2:46 am to
ND will get the nod like they always do. Just use it to your betting advantage. Bama will also get in AND get the easy bracket to advance. Vandy, Miami, UNT will get the short end of the stick. End of the day it a business
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 2:51 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
13302 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 9:00 am to
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ND will get the nod like they always do. Just use it to your betting advantage.


They are like -400 to make it last I looked, not much of an advantage.

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Vandy, Miami, UNT will get the short end of the stick.


Vandy has no ranked wins. Miami shouldn't have lost to 2 shite teams. UNT has played no one.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
129052 posts
Posted on 12/1/25 at 9:02 am to
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Bama just looked like arse against an Auburn team with 1 win in the SEC against Arkansas.


Rivalry game. They get a pass on that imo.
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