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re: So, has this Instagram post by Evan Longoria been discussed yet?
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:45 pm to shel311
Posted on 1/18/19 at 11:45 pm to shel311
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Because the real problem with the system is the 1st 7 years.
minor leaguers are the real players who are getting f'd. I knew they didn't make a lot, but the more that comes out, it's even more embarrassing.
I realize you cannot pay 20+ players for 8 minor league teams a lot of cash, but this isn't even a livable wage in a 3rd world nation.
Great example of the contract, service time system, is Jose martinez for Cardinals, he's 30 and he's still eligible for another team friendly smallish contract. He won't hit salary arb till age 31, and still will be salary strung.
MLBPA are to blame for the service time and shite, they had power for many years and wasted it on extra hot tubs and better food trays in locker room.
This post was edited on 1/18/19 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 1/19/19 at 12:19 am to WaltTeevens
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What is he supposed to say? "Please pay me minimum wage. Less would be fine"
That’s the other side of this conversation to you? Good god.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:07 am to CollegeFBRules
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CollegeFBRules
I don't know how you negotiate wages with your job, but saying that you suck and don't deserve more money is usually not a good tactic.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:10 am to WaltTeevens
The issue is if you believe you are worth more than the market dictates then you fool yourself and assume it is someones else's issue
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:27 am to CollegeFBRules
Holy shite whoever wrote that is stupid
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:30 am to graychef
quote:Didn't the Rays wrap him up and pay him large money before he had to prove himself?
Longoria shouldn’t be crying about MLB money
Similar to Sale..?
Both deserved everything they got and it was a great move to pay em early but it's pretty gay of Longoria to bitch now.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:47 am to CollegeFBRules
He got ripped apart on Twitter and in his Instagram comments
Someone posted his splits from the last two years while he’s made 17 million per and is due 40 some odd million dollars over the next couple. Then they posted the splits of some guy I’ve never heard of that had about the same splits that made 3.5 million...he then pointed out that Longoria will probably never touch what he did this year for the next two years while the younger guy is still improving. He then asked why would fans want him on the field as part of the “best possible product” at 5 times what a better player makes.
Someone posted his splits from the last two years while he’s made 17 million per and is due 40 some odd million dollars over the next couple. Then they posted the splits of some guy I’ve never heard of that had about the same splits that made 3.5 million...he then pointed out that Longoria will probably never touch what he did this year for the next two years while the younger guy is still improving. He then asked why would fans want him on the field as part of the “best possible product” at 5 times what a better player makes.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:53 am to TigerStripes06
Athletes are dumb.
And when they aren't dumb they're biased.
And when they aren't either of those they possess zero self awareness.
It kills me when they try to rank each other.
And when they aren't dumb they're biased.
And when they aren't either of those they possess zero self awareness.
It kills me when they try to rank each other.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 1:53 am to TigerStripes06
Which is why the system is flawed
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:13 am to CollegeFBRules
These big contracts frequently turn out to be clubs overpaying to make up for other clubs underpaying in the early years of a career.
Now they are not rushing to do that.
See pujols, Albert for an example
Thinks he still has individual years with the cardinals with more war than his entire term with the angels
These guys aren't that old though but i wouldn't be surprised if they don't match their prior performance
And not like either had led their teams to a lot of success
Now they are not rushing to do that.
See pujols, Albert for an example
Thinks he still has individual years with the cardinals with more war than his entire term with the angels
These guys aren't that old though but i wouldn't be surprised if they don't match their prior performance
And not like either had led their teams to a lot of success
Posted on 1/19/19 at 4:42 am to WaltTeevens
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I don't know how you negotiate wages with your job, but saying that you suck and don't deserve more money is usually not a good tactic.
How simplistic and unrealistic a view of the world you operate by.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:50 am to CollegeFBRules
Scott Boras will announce Harper’s deal during the Super Bowl
Posted on 1/19/19 at 6:53 am to CollegeFBRules
Opened post for pics of eva longoria.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:28 am to WestCoastAg
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I'm not on board with teams like the pirates deciding they can't "afford" cole and trading him to the Astros. Or the Dodgers deciding that the tax limit is the cap and refusing to go over it. That's 100% bull shite
Why would the teams do otherwise?
The Dodgers are like any other business. They're willing to spend X on payroll.
The Pirates can afford Cole if he stays healthy and continues to produce at the same level. What they can't afford is to give him a mega contract and be on the hook if he gets hurt (see Jason Kendall) or starts sucking. They decided they weren't willing to take the risk.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:29 am to Bestbank Tiger
quote:but they can. they have ownerships who absolutely can afford these salaries. and they literally get money from the bigger market franchises to pay those players. but they dont
The Pirates can afford Cole if he stays healthy and continues to produce at the same level. What they can't afford is to give him a mega contract and be on the hook if he gets hurt (see Jason Kendall) or starts sucking. They decided they weren't willing to take the risk.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:35 am to WestCoastAg
I think the thing with the MLB that’s a little different is they are tied to arbitration for so long and don’t really get to explore what’s out there nearly as quickly as players in other sports. Evan came from a generation that saw those mega deals go out if you just bided your time and we’re a highly productive player. Now those players are being held in place and paid somewhat below market value during their most productive years and aren’t getting rewarded on the back end. I understand why teams don’t want to give those deals anymore, but I can also see why the players would be frustrated.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 8:36 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:41 am to WestCoastAg
You realize that the Dodgers could play the same game right ? The league doesn't randomly pick what team has to share money. It's based on payroll. Your dodgers are part of the issue in a lot of people's opinion. Their payroll is well over 200 million and they have jack to show for it the last four years. If they had a bottom tier payroll, then they would get money too. You're just mad that your team isn't signing Harper and Machado to help y'all lose another World Series.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:44 am to Tigers0891
quote:except not really because we dont get any money from any other franchise
You realize that the Dodgers could play the same game right
quote:thats not how it works
The league doesn't randomly pick what team has to share money. It's based on payroll
quote:well thats not true
Their payroll is well over 200 million
quote:what does this even mean
Your dodgers are part of the issue in a lot of people's opinion.
This post was edited on 1/19/19 at 8:45 am
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:52 am to tduecen
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I mean I understand it, they thought they would get the market from 2-3 years ago and it has shifted. They don't have as many teams in need and Harper is coming off an inconsistent tenure. They've both been offered 25 million (assuming) which is about right but not the 350-400 million they each thought before the season.
Yeah, Machado was only offered 7 years, $175 million by the White Sox. That's the same contract Stephen Strasburg got coming off an injury riddled 2015 season and of course pitchers are a lot more volatile than position players. A lot of these mega contracts are enormously risky propositions that rarely works out and the owners and front offices are finally starting to realize it.
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:59 am to CollegeFBRules
“Value” is arbitrary. You’re only “worth” the highest amount someone is willing to pay you. If no one is willing to pay you $400 million then guess what? You’re not worth $400 million l no matter what you think
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