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re: Skenes falls to 4-6 on the year after giving up just 3 hits & 1 ER in 8 innings.

Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:13 am to
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:13 am to
There’s no excuse for them to not at least be spending similar to a Cincinnati or Milwaukee, very similar markets in the same division. Fans would absolutely show up there under different circumstances.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38674 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:23 am to
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when is he going put a ring on Livvy's finger?


Time for her to dump him. I love Skenes as a player and ex tiger but the dude is an absolute snooze fest and comes off as an arse hole. Every time I see him on a podcast or interview it puts me to sleep. Not sure how you can have that much going for you and be that boring.

I'm not a Skenes hater, this is literally the first time I've ever said anything negative about him, just an observation.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104801 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:27 am to
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Time for her to dump him. I love Skenes as a player and ex tiger but the dude is an absolute snooze fest and comes off as an arse hole. Every time I see him on a podcast or interview it puts me to sleep. Not sure how you can have that much going for you and be that boring. I'm not a Skenes hater, this is literally the first time I've ever said anything negative about him, just an observation.
Have you ever seen her in an interview?

She had the charm and personality of a potato. They are perfect for each other Them on game day together was quality
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 10:28 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
38928 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:30 am to
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There’s no excuse for them to not at least be spending similar to a Cincinnati or Milwaukee, very similar markets in the same division. Fans would absolutely show up there under different circumstances.



Their pitching has been pretty good this year. 4 starters with a whip at 1.25 or less

Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38674 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:31 am to
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Have you ever seen her in an interview?

She had the charm and personality of a potato. They are perfect for each other Them on game day together was quality


Every time I see them in an interview she's all smiling and trying to joke around and he's just giving like one word answers with a "frick you" look on his face. Like when he won ROY(?) and she's all excited for him and gives him a hug and he doesn't even look at her. It's like jeez dude, cheer up a bit, you're living it.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
30958 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:34 am to
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Time for her to dump him. I love Skenes as a player and ex tiger but the dude is an absolute snooze fest and comes off as an arse hole. Every time I see him on a podcast or interview it puts me to sleep. Not sure how you can have that much going for you and be that boring.


Weird, weird shite
Posted by Skenes
Member since Mar 2025
142 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:42 am to
They do need Cruz to develop into their Bobby Witt. Hayes needs to get back to that 2022-2023 player, with Reynolds returning to his MVP form. At least with that pitching staff, they would have a shot. I do think Horwitz can become a serviceable player, along with Bart/Davis continuing to hit.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
38674 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 10:45 am to
I know, weird to have observation on an LSU couple that pop up on TD everyday. Especially in response to someone asking when he'll put a ring on it.
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11872 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:24 am to
I'm not a hardcore baseball guy, so can someone tell me when he will have max trade value to the Pirates?

They won't let him go all the way through his contract, will they?
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62268 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:29 am to
Now is the answer to your question. But I suspect they bring in a new front office, feign trying to be competitive for a couple years and then trade him at the 2027 deadline or so.

There is zero chance they hold him through the end of his contract (end of the 2029 season). Even in a scenario where they suddenly become more competitive I think they’d deal him before his last year of control. But I’m sure they’re also cognizant of the fact the fanbase will understandably revolt even harder if they deal him now
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:33 am to
touché'!
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11872 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:38 am to
I guess I should have phrased my question differently. Not "when does he have max value" because obviously that is now as you said. The right question is when will it most benefit the Pirates franchise from a cost/benefit analysis.

What's the point of keeping him if their team is truly that bad? The only logical argument I can think of would be the fans. They have so many holes and if he can buy them significantly better players at 4-5 positions then I think that would make them better on the whole.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62268 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:41 am to
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What's the point of keeping him if their team is truly that bad? The only logical argument I can think of would be the fans. They have so many holes and if he can buy them significantly better players at 4-5 positions then I think that would make them better on the whole.


The combination of fan backlash and journalists everywhere standing up and taking notice and MLB possibly doing something is enough for them to wait I think.

Your overall point is correct though I think, if you are operating under the assumption that he’s gone in a few years anyway
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148168 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 11:43 am to
You also have to find a team who thinks it could win with Skenes after trading away multiple starting caliber players which is a tough sell for anyone, even if it brought back a great player
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69188 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:07 pm to
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Time for her to dump him.



That said, why do you think he comes across as an a-hole? Boring, sure. He's a baseball guy whose favorite hobby outside his job of baseball is also baseball. He also comes from a military background, lot of dry boring dudes in that arena. He comes across as a guy who hates being the center of attention off the baseball field and only does the stuff he does because he feels like has some sort of an obligation to at this point (and having a girlfriend who makes her money being the center of attention). But nothing he has ever done or said comes across that he's an a-hole.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
38622 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:16 pm to
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Has a pitcher with a losing record ever won the Cy Young?



I think of it like Nolan Ryan in 1987. He led the league in ERA (2.76) while going 8-16 with the Houston Astros. He was 40 years old then, too. I always thought of that season as the perfect example of an exercise in futility.
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
6049 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 12:47 pm to
She told him not to propose unless he had a World Series ring to give her.
Posted by Falco
Member since Dec 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 1:26 pm to
Eric Gagne (a reliever) is the only pitcher to win it with a sub .500 record.

Bruce Sutter won it at .500 and Felix Hernandez won it at .520 winning percentage.


Scenes could still win it but he does have competition in Yamamoto, Senga, Ray, Webb, Barnes, Pivetta, etc



If the ERA is close they will go with the player who has the most wins/strikeouts
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