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SI article on Wisc football: badgers are done with ground and pound, revolution underway

Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:24 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:24 pm
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Meet the new Bucky. Not the same as the old Bucky. What could be described as the most comfortable program in college football—rooted in continuity, staunchly wedded to an old-school ethos, proudly bland, same as it ever was—has left its comfort zone. Wisconsin has broken its mold and is being rebuilt in a daring, fresh image.

A staffer described the program’s 30-year identity, from Barry Alvarez to Bret Bielema to Gary Andersen to Paul Chryst, as “the little engine that could.” The Badgers now want to be the full-grown engine that will.

The aspirations now are to move up alongside Ohio State and Michigan at the top. There is a greater urgency, a sharper edge, a renewed push to take the Badgers where they’ve never been before.

“Luke believes, as do I, that there’s no ceiling on us at Wisconsin,” McIntosh says.

During a recent scrimmage in Camp Randall Stadium, Wisconsin quarterback Tanner Mordecai fired a bullet to Braelon Allen running a circle route out of the backfield. Allen hauled it in and kept possession through a hard shot from a safety in the end zone for a touchdown.

That one play said a lot about how different Badgers football is going to be in 2023.

The play originated without a huddle and from the shotgun formation. The offensive linemen were pass protecting out of the wide splits that come with an Air Raid offense. The play was in the red zone, but there was no fullback to be found. Mordecai wore an SMU uniform for his previous two seasons, and an Oklahoma uniform the three before that. The 245-pound Allen has had 437 touches from scrimmage in two seasons of college ball without recording a touchdown reception.


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I think iowa will soon follow
This post was edited on 8/26/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:29 pm to
Ask Nebraska how this worked out for them.

Changing the identity of a program is a lot harder than one thinks
Posted by SoDakHawk
South Dakota
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:32 pm to
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I think iowa will soon follow


Lol. Funny thing is go back and look at Ferentz offenses from the 2000s and how dynamic they were. Brad Banks, Heisman runner-up. Iowa can do that style, and I think you may see it come back.
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:33 pm to
This only works if he can recruit the skill players to do it. And Wisconsin doesn’t have a ton….Similar to Nebraska .

But fickell might be able to pull some from Ohio.
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:33 pm to
What could go wrong
Posted by krs1190
Member since Aug 2023
250 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:37 pm to
Gonna be weird seeing Wisconsin throw it all over the place.
Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
3390 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:39 pm to
Phil Longo had AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, and Dawson Knox and couldn’t make a bowl game. I’ll believe it when I see it
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:42 pm to
Nebraska has tried this for almost 20 years and it hasnt gone well
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:52 pm to
Unless Wisconsin is able to recruit at a higher level than they've been doing, you can kiss those Top 10-15 finishes goodbye.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39420 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 12:55 pm to
They had a nice selling point to offensive linemen and RBs...A niche...for players, otherwise not historically wanting to be in Wisconsin just like NFL players didn't want to be traded to Green Bay.

Also, see Bill Callahan's wholesale overhaul at Nebraska to the WC offense.
Posted by Nitrogen
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:05 pm to
gonna be so weird seeing them with a more modern offense
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:07 pm to
More like Phil Wrongo
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
54829 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 1:43 pm to
There’s a reason they’re ground and pound in the Big Ten… they can’t win the other way
Posted by BreakawayZou83
Kansas City, Missouri
Member since Oct 2011
10298 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:14 pm to
RIP Wisconsin football.
Posted by MJackson
Member since Dec 2006
1126 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:24 pm to
quote:

Ask Nebraska how this worked out for them.

Changing the identity of a program is a lot harder than one thinks




yup... seeing those texas tech/mike leach offenses look fun on TV, but they had a large, local recruiting base from where they could get those players. the state of wisconsin and nearby states don't really have the same level of talent to compete at a high level to play with an air-raid style offense
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84725 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:41 pm to
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Ask Nebraska how this worked out for them.


My thought exactly. It’s fine to change but there has to be the right talent and patience to see it through.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84725 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:42 pm to
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Nebraska has tried this for almost 20 years and it hasnt gone well


It will work better for Wisc. They get better WR talent there than at Neb
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Phil Wrongo


Longo is the best OC in major CFB.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15661 posts
Posted on 8/26/23 at 3:50 pm to
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This only works if he can recruit the skill players to do it. And Wisconsin doesn’t have a ton

The school produces a lot of skill players. The problem is they are all RBs and TEs.

Wisconsin’s offense has fallen off over the last 10-12 years. They struggle to produce points and yards, often finishing in the bottom half of FBS. Paul Chryst had very productive offenses when he was the OC, but was never able to replicate that success once he came back as head coach.

Aranda and Leonard were able to consistently have top 10 defenses over that same span, despite not having anything close to elite DB talent. One reason is they were able to utilize their more talented Front 7 to cover up deficiencies in the defensive backfield.

I don’t know if a complete overhaul is the best approach, but Wisconsin’s philosophy was no longer working. Over the last five seasons their offense has been ranked 62, 23, 89, 85, and 77. They need to do something to create more production and points, and absolutely need it to result in better QB play.


Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 8/26/23 at 5:22 pm to
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