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re: SI - After a horrific second game loss, Miles adopts RPO at Kansas

Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:10 am to
Posted by km
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:10 am to
AND THEN THERE WAS LIGHT......
Posted by EasterEgg
New Orleans Metro
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:12 am to
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i wanted him to go down with the ship.

I don't. I hope he somehow lights up the Big12. That league could use some parity.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:22 am to
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So, to me, the question is why did he change after 2 games in Ks when he wouldn’t at LSU ?
Jeff Long ?
It's amazing to me that anyone with a working brain and any knowledge of coaching football might think that Miles CHANGED the offense after two games.

You can't install a spread RPO in a week under NCAA practice time restrictions.

They've been working on this since Miles got there.

And like any good head coach, he's not going to create a game plan to reveal it against Indiana State or Coastal Carolina. (Coastal Carolina was a tough loss.)

The big payoff would come from revealing the new offense against Boston College, The first P5 team on their 1029 schedule.

Brilliant move. Well played.




P.S. Posters reveal themselves as morons when they use the term "toss dive" or "pitch dive" to identify the panoply of plays that Miles runs with a toss. They aren't toss dives. I appreciate the fact that they reveal themselves as morons. Although TrueTigerTale and Shorty Rob long ago announced themselves as morons. TTT needs an in-depth education on football and Shorty Rob needs anger therapy . . . a lot of it. Wow, you're mad at Miles' success.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 8:24 am
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:26 am to
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And like any good head coach, he's not going to create a game plan to reveal it against Indiana State or Coastal Carolina. (Coastal Carolina was a tough loss.)

The big payoff would come from revealing the new offense against Boston College, The first P5 team on their 1029 schedule.

Brilliant move. Well played.
so Miles actually has a secret playbook?

Interesting thought, absurd though it is.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:29 am to
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I don't. I hope he somehow lights up the Big12. That league could use some parity.


I think it's got parity. OU is dominant, but Texas is on the rise. TCU has been very good, and Okla St has been good. Baylor was good (albeit during the sick Art Briles era), Iowa State is pretty good, K State is no pushover, West Virginia is bad this year but was good under Holgerson, and even Texas Tech has had its moments, especially on offense.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:36 am to
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He beat fricking boston college lol.


You must be pretty ignorant when it comes to college football.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5533 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:45 am to
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so Miles actually has a secret playbook?

Interesting thought, absurd though it is.
Yeah, because no coach in the history of football kept things vanilla for the first two games.

And where is the bigger payoff, trouncing Indiana State or Boston College?

Which gets the bigger media coverage? No one on earth would give a frick if Kansas trounces Indiana State or Coastal Caroline. Beat BC at BC by 20+ when you're a 20 point dog? That gets covered by everyone for a few days.

But you tell me more about absurd thoughts.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:57 am to
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And where is the bigger payoff, trouncing Indiana State or Boston College?

ah, you left out losing to Coastal Carolina.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5533 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:23 am to
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And where is the bigger payoff, trouncing Indiana State or Boston College?
ah, you left out losing to Coastal Carolina.
ah, . . . no, I didn't:
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And like any good head coach, he's not going to create a game plan to reveal it against Indiana State or Coastal Carolina. (Coastal Carolina was a tough loss.)
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:50 am to
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I almost hate that he changed.

i wanted him to go down with the ship.

It makes me sad that he actually learned this lesson ever.


What's wrong with you? Seriously.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 9:50 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:57 am to
It's a shame it took him this long, had he adapted after 2015 he'd still be the LSU coach today & he'd have a chance to go down as one of the best SEC coaches ever after Saban/Bear/Neyland. instead of being in the Fulmer tier he'd be in the Spurrier tier.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 9:59 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:00 am to
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its amazing how you never have a problem with any poster doing nothing but shitting on the most accomplished coach in lsu history( the school you love).

I use to also defend Miles. And to some extent, I still will

But seeing how easily and seamless it was to adapt a new offense was here at LSU, his tenure towards the end now has a very bad taste in my mouth
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:00 am to
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quote:
And where is the bigger payoff, trouncing Indiana State or Boston College?
ah, you left out losing to Coastal Carolina.
ah, . . . no, I didn't:
I was referring to your statement in my quote above - and you absolutely left out the Coastal loss.

If Miles has a secret playbook (which he doesn't) and he used it, he was playing with fire, because it cost him a terrible loss to Coastal Carolina and a near-loss to FCS Indiana State - he needed a late TD to bail him out.

Maybe, just maybe, the KU offense took a few games to get going. No secret playbook involved.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:04 am to
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ut seeing how easily and seamless it was to adapt a new offense was here at LSU, his tenure towards the end now has a very bad taste in my mouth


O has been talking about doing this since he got hired, not sure easy and seamless is the way to describe it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:05 am to
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And like any good head coach, he's not going to create a game plan to reveal it against Indiana State or Coastal Carolina. (Coastal Carolina was a tough loss.)

The big payoff would come from revealing the new offense against Boston College, The first P5 team on their 1029 schedule.

Brilliant move. Well played.

if it prevented him from beating CC, it wasn't brilliant or well played
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
16630 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:07 am to
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But seeing how easily and seamless it was to adapt a new offense was here at LSU, his tenure towards the end now has a very bad taste in my mouth


It took 3 years and 2.5 offensive coordinators to change it
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Member since Oct 2008
84857 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:14 am to
Ed's old school football instincts didn't really want to change either. Moving our offense from late 80's Michigan to early 2000's USC was as good as it was going to get had O not realized that if he didn't change he wasn't going to cash those 7 figure checks for very long.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:15 am to
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It's amazing to me that anyone with a working brain and any knowledge of coaching football might think that Miles CHANGED the offense after two games.

You can't install a spread RPO in a week under NCAA practice time restrictions.

They've been working on this since Miles got there.


Exactly.

I'm constantly surprised by the depths of idiocy on here. Of course he's been working on it for a while.

People seriously think Miles was clicking on the LSU games and then decided "hey, that's a great idea, let's do that." People actually think that.
This post was edited on 9/17/19 at 10:16 am
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
20386 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:33 am to
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I'll bet to think you were super slick by leaving a few words out when you quoted me

Man. That's a totally original tactic


all in good fun, my man. No harm meant.

but seriously- I feel like I spend too much time on this board, and I've got 10k in 1 fewer year. How did you manage to get to 70k? Some big topic you were invested in?
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26962 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 10:39 am to
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Les Miles is now in a conference where only two teams are actually something that one would think he couldn't really ever surpass no matter how long he's there, those being Oklahoma and Texas.

But the rest of the big 12 is within his reach to end up passing over time. All he has to do is recruit well and that's something that no matter how he is percieved was always something he could do as well as anyone in the country. If he gets some real players in that program then we could end up watching Kansas become a program that is suddenly winning 8+ games a year.

For whatever reason real talents want to play for the man and I won't be surprised to see him end up making Kansas a top 25 team sooner rather than later.


I laughed my arse off at national media wannabes who said MIles would be a failure at Kansas.
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