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Shout out to the Colts Analytics guys

Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:23 pm
Posted by LSUminati
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Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:24 pm to
wonder how they factor in the irrational reaction to not getting a 4th and 1 even if it was the right call to make?
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 8:31 pm to
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wonder how they factor in the irrational reaction to not getting a 4th and 1 even if it was the right call to make?
analytics only work if people are not going to overreact to any single decision that has a bad outcome. Which is the biggest issue. While winning is great, what's even better is having a job. So you'll opt for the "less crazy" option because no one will call for your head if it doesn't work out.
Posted by diat150
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:22 pm to
I dont think analytics works in the NFL.
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:32 pm to
Analytics is just a fancy way of saying “making decisions.”

All teams and all humans at all levels do it. Some just use math to reach the decision.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 10:34 pm
Posted by Duzz
Houston
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:49 pm to
So is that their new offensive coordinator now? Madden it instead of strategist?
Posted by DeathValley85
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 12:27 am to
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Analytics is just a fancy way of saying “making decisions.”


No, analytics helps with decision making.

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Some just use math to reach the decision.


Yup, the smart ones.



I feel like analytics lends itself a bit better to baseball and basketball, but would love to know what those guys work on
Posted by TitaniusAnglesmith
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 4:24 am to
Is anyone really surprised this is two Asian guys?
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:21 am to
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analytics helps with decision making.


Absolutely. We all use some form or fashion of “analytics” to make decisions. Some use math. Some use history and experience, some use emotion, some data, but at the end of the day it’s all analytics.... You take the information that you have and the information that you choose to deem important and use and you make a decision.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:30 am to
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I dont think analytics works in the NFL.

i don't understand how people can believe this
Posted by kciDAtaE
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:34 am to
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We all use some form or fashion of “analytics” to make decisions. Some use math. Some use history and experience, some use emotion, some data, but at the end of the day it’s all analytics.... You take the information that you have and the information that you choose to deem important and use and you make a decision


The definition of analytics is changing in sports context. Stop being difficult. If you can’t understand this, stop posting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:37 am to
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The definition of analytics is changing in sports context.

not really

it's just in search of below the surface data to influence decision making. it's not magic
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:39 am to
Oh I get it and totally understand that there are new categories of “ analytics” in sports and the definition is evolving. I just don’t really like when some fans and commentators go over-the-top with praise about how some coaches focus on one form of “analytics” over another when they ALL use analytics. I don’t like the “OMG OMG that coach is sooo smart because he uses a decision-making chart.”

I guarantee you every coach in America knows what the other team’s tendency on 3rd and 4th and short is, which is one of many many forms of analytics.

By no means am I asserting analytics are bad. Of course they are good and help with decision-making. Which is why every coach uses analytics to some degree. It’s just the categories of data analytics is changing, but analytics has always been a part of the game.
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 8:42 am
Posted by Gus007
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:41 am to
Is that what they call their "Road Grader" offensive line. KC could not handle them.
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 7:44 am to
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I dont think analytics works in the NFL.



This makes me thing you don't understand what analytics means because they are applicable in every single football decision. It's just using data to make better decisions not a road map on how to win a game. How could that not work in the NFL?
This post was edited on 10/7/19 at 7:45 am
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 8:49 am to
What was the analytics on Tomlin choosing to kick the ball to start OT
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:00 am to
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What was the analytics on Tomlin choosing to kick the ball to start OT


That was probably a lack of analytics.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 9:03 am to
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It's just using data to make better decisions not a road map on how to win a game


I thinks it’s more like a decision tree where you do abc in xyz situation to optimize your chance of winning a game.

Posted by hubertcumberdale
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Posted on 10/7/19 at 10:55 am to
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This makes me thing you don't understand what analytics means because they are applicable in every single football decision. It's just using data to make better decisions not a road map on how to win a game. How could that not work in the NFL?




I think he means the dataset is way smaller (compared to baseball) from year to year so it is hard to do any meaningful analysis without having to simulate results based on some arbitrary assumptions
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