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Posted on 9/12/19 at 5:47 am to SpartyGator
Yes, playing the FCS should be an automatic disqualifier for the CFP. Period.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:25 am to TulaneFan
It needs to stop bc it’s difficult enough deciding who the best teams are. Cupcakes make it worse.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:40 am to I Bleed Garnet
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Na.
I like giving money to other schools in the state
Like CSU this weekend
It literally made their year
I have a buddy that is on the coaching staff and you're absolutely right, it did make their year
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:50 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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Look at Idaho
Idaho dropped to FCS
Posted on 9/12/19 at 6:56 am to ProfFrink
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Do you really think ULL is better than North Dakota State?
NDSU is an exceptional program. You can’t use them as an example to prove your point.
ULL may not be better than NDSU, but they are still better than 90% of FCS teams out there.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 7:36 am to RD Dawg
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Hilarious.They donate thousands every year just to make sure they maintain their tickets.You hardly recoup that value even if
you can get CLOSE to face value for a shitty FCS or G5 team.
Who said anything about face value? If you don’t like the product, don’t pay or don’t go. That’s how you will get it changed.
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Okay? Don't really GAS and it the amount of FBS schools that have proliferated because of these cupcake games is ridiculous.Its the only reason they exist in many cases.
Thank you captain obvious. They’ve been playing cupcake games for years.
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Most of them are just as bad but others such as Memphis State,Tulane and Houston I don't have a problem with.
You’re just restating what has already been said. If you want P5 v P5 every week, you are in a fantasy world. P5 doesn’t want to risk that many losses and getting beat up week in and week out.
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Attendance is starting to slip
That =\= ticket sales. Are season tickets slipping as well?
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:08 am to TulaneFan
Do you even read your own post?
Any other questions, just ask yourself.
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What is the point of Alabama playing Western Carolina?
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The FBS programs want their tune-up game and the payday is beneficial to the FCS programs.
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Obviously both sides would prefer to keep playing
Any other questions, just ask yourself.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 8:27 am to TulaneFan
They are horrible and not even real games.
The entire point of different classifications is to avoid the 70-0 mudstompings that nobody enjoys.
The entire point of different classifications is to avoid the 70-0 mudstompings that nobody enjoys.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:07 am to TulaneFan
Power 5 should
Power 5 should play 11 p5 teams and 1 g5
G5 should play 9 g5, 1 or 2 p5 and 1 fcs.
Power 5 should play 11 p5 teams and 1 g5
G5 should play 9 g5, 1 or 2 p5 and 1 fcs.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:15 am to PEPE
There’s still a large overlap of talent between lower P5 teams, G5 teams, and FCS. For many teams, you can take away whatever classification they are in and give it the eye test.
How many Pac-12 schools are routinely shitty? Kansas? Rutgers? Those schools are Power 5 in name only. On the other hand, Boise, Houston, UCF...all at a level higher than G5.
How many Pac-12 schools are routinely shitty? Kansas? Rutgers? Those schools are Power 5 in name only. On the other hand, Boise, Houston, UCF...all at a level higher than G5.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:20 am to TexasTiger08
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Thank you captain obvious. They’ve been playing cupcake games for years.
Wow,that point went right over your head.
By scheduling these shite teams more bad teams are being created just to get a piece of the P5 pie.Its like a welfare queen having more kids cause she knows she's gonna get a bigger check.Its a horrible business model.
BTW,who cares if they been doing for "years"? The actually weren't not that long ago and it was never the intent when a 12th game was added.
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Who said anything about face value
The point is theres much more to it than "face value"
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You’re just restating what has already been said
No offense but you really didn't get my point the 1st time.
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If you want P5 v P5 every week, you are in a fantasy world
One TRADITIONAL G5 is fine or an Army,Navy or BYU.One is enough
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P5 doesn’t want to risk that many losses and getting beat up week in and week out.
If everybody did it they'd have the same risk and what is it the "beat up" thing?
Most teams DIDN'T have cupcake games in the 80's and turned out fine and much better for fans.
We lost our starting QB along with starting DL in '17 vs a "cupcake".
I know many tickets have been released for certain games from visiting teams and the AD was advertising packages for these games.1st time I can remember it happening.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:20 am to TulaneFan
I've been saying as much for a while now.
However, making it reality is another matter as frick tons of money gets involved.
There is no real reason aside from that however to have FBS play FCS schools. If it was done away with, we could also take a significant step in making CFB a bit less subjective (albeit still heavily so) in the grand scheme of things.
Additionally, the consistent presence of FCS vs FBS games degrades the overall CFB product as the overwhelming majority of games on any given weekend are absolute dogshit.
However, making it reality is another matter as frick tons of money gets involved.
There is no real reason aside from that however to have FBS play FCS schools. If it was done away with, we could also take a significant step in making CFB a bit less subjective (albeit still heavily so) in the grand scheme of things.
Additionally, the consistent presence of FCS vs FBS games degrades the overall CFB product as the overwhelming majority of games on any given weekend are absolute dogshit.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 9:21 am to kciDAtaE
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Do you even read your own post?
Can you read, my son?
The question is should the two divisions continue to play? The above points briefly outline why they play.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:03 am to RD Dawg
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By scheduling these shite teams more bad teams are being created just to get a piece of the P5 pie.Its like a welfare queen having more kids cause she knows she's gonna get a bigger check.Its a horrible business model.
It’s all cyclical. The bubble is bursting in some places. You mentioned low attendance in some areas. You will also have programs get cut.
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The point is theres much more to it than "face value"
I’m well aware of that. Season ticket holders are still paying the big bucks for this stuff. They’re the ones who should raise hell about it.
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If everybody did it they'd have the same risk and what is it the "beat up" thing?
Most teams DIDN'T have cupcake games in the 80's and turned out fine and much better for fans.
We lost our starting QB along with starting DL in '17 vs a "cupcake".
You still had cupcake games in the 80’s, it was just different programs. Yes, not as many, but they existed. You also had many more schools that were not affiliated with a conference and could fill schedules with more versatility.
Losing your players to injury in a game against G5 or FCS isn’t as common as it is against the big boys. It seems like you all just had bad luck.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 10:33 am to TexasTiger08
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You will also have programs get cut.
Don't see much of an end to it unless the playoffs expand.Teams will be more willing to risk a tougher schedule.
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You still had cupcake games in the 80’s, it was just different programs
Occasionally but not close to what it is today. 1987 UGA ScheduleAll P5 BTW
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You also had many more schools that were not affiliated with a conference and could fill schedules with more versatility
That certainly helps.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/12/19 at 11:58 am to RD Dawg
FWIW - I don’t like these games either. You may as well just make it a bye week for some teams.
With that said, to make everyone schedule P5 teams, I think you need to have a clearer definition of P5. Maybe reword it to include some of the Boise’s, BYU, Notre Dame’s of the landscape. If not, everyone will call Rutgers, Kansas, and Oregon State to fill their schedule.
With that said, to make everyone schedule P5 teams, I think you need to have a clearer definition of P5. Maybe reword it to include some of the Boise’s, BYU, Notre Dame’s of the landscape. If not, everyone will call Rutgers, Kansas, and Oregon State to fill their schedule.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:05 pm to LordSaintly
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ULL may not be better than NDSU, but they are still better than 90% of FCS teams out there.
Not trying to offend but the Cajuns are not “THAT” good
Hell. A bad NSU team beat a La Tech team that destroyed ULL in 2014
In any given year I could name at least 30 FCS teams that are just as good, if not better than ULL (Montana, EWU, JMU, SHSU, etc)
Their is very little difference between most FCS teams and G5 teams.
This post was edited on 9/12/19 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 9/12/19 at 12:55 pm to ProfFrink
I just don't think you should punish FCS players and not let them play in front of 80,000+ people for maybe the only time in their lives just because you're playing some school arbitrarily in the FBS like Texas State even though they shouldn't be.
FBS is separated in tiers of P5 and G5 for a reason and there is a similar separation at the FCS level between conferences like the MVFC and SWAC even though they all get lumped together. I agree FBS teams shouldn't schedule teams like Arkansas-Pine Bluff but most FCS teams would kill them too. They might as well be DII.
FBS is separated in tiers of P5 and G5 for a reason and there is a similar separation at the FCS level between conferences like the MVFC and SWAC even though they all get lumped together. I agree FBS teams shouldn't schedule teams like Arkansas-Pine Bluff but most FCS teams would kill them too. They might as well be DII.
Posted on 9/12/19 at 2:06 pm to soleckma
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Well a bunch of pansies have beaten LSU 2 out of the last 3 years
How about the past 10, smartass?
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