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Should offensive players be penalized for lowering their helmet?
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:27 pm
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:27 pm
watching this UTenn/USCe game and UTenn's receiver completely lowers his head into a USCe defensive player that was going "low" prior to this movement. now the play is under review for targeting. how is this not an offensive penalty? the defensive player and his "line" was set long before the UTenn player engaged a helmet to helmet hit on the defensive player
15 yard penalty on USCe and the defender just got ejected.
15 yard penalty on USCe and the defender just got ejected.
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Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:28 pm to SlowFlowPro
No, the refs should learn how to recognize it and not penalize the D
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:33 pm to cubsfan5150
the way it's written, they're making the correct call
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Is it in NFL the runner can't lower head outside of Tackles?
Posted on 10/29/16 at 9:53 pm to SlowFlowPro
I actually had a ref call the running back for this very thing last year in an 8th grade game. Both sides laughed at him/told him it was a joke. He called it nonetheless.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:20 pm to SlowFlowPro
shite just happened to fSU as well. This is becoming totally ridiculous
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:21 pm to Tiger in NY
literally the defender can't even try to tackle the receiver b/c the receiver has the option to go as low as he wants
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not sure about the penalty but I certainly agree that there are a lot of "targeting" calls that would have been "leading with shoulder" had the ball carrier not lowered his head after the defender was already committed.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
I wouldn't go as far as penalizing the guy with the ball, but the targeting shouldn't apply in that case.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
The way the have it worded is ridiculous. By definition, targeting suggests the defensive players is intentionally trying to hit the ball carrier in the head. However, it's worded in a way that any contact with the crown of the helmet is targeting, even if the defender is aiming for the knees.
This is all on top of it being completely suggestive, and not remotely close to being consistently called. The rule needs a complete overhaul, but it won't happen.
This is all on top of it being completely suggestive, and not remotely close to being consistently called. The rule needs a complete overhaul, but it won't happen.
This post was edited on 10/29/16 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 10/29/16 at 10:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
Time to go the way of rugby and just get rid of helmets
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
An FSU RB was thrown out of a high school game on the first play for it.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
That entire targeting, crown of helmet rule should be thrown out. It's done nothing but create confusion.
Posted on 10/29/16 at 11:59 pm to Ponchy Tiger
The entire concept of targeting and helmet to helmet is ridiculous.
Helmets will hit, that's football.
Helmets will hit, that's football.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:33 am to Ponchy Tiger
the crown stuff has been on the books for a while...it just didn't lead to an ejection
leading with the crown and launching have been illegal for a long time
the bigger issue is the "helmet/shoulder to helmet" contact when the receiver is "defenseless". the defender in the USCe game was going for a pretty low tackle (about stomach high) and the RECEIVER crunched into a ball and lowered HIS helmet into the defender's helmet. the defender doesn's have an area to tackle anymore b/c the receiver controls the impact zone
leading with the crown and launching have been illegal for a long time
the bigger issue is the "helmet/shoulder to helmet" contact when the receiver is "defenseless". the defender in the USCe game was going for a pretty low tackle (about stomach high) and the RECEIVER crunched into a ball and lowered HIS helmet into the defender's helmet. the defender doesn's have an area to tackle anymore b/c the receiver controls the impact zone
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:42 am to SPEEDY
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Time to go the way of rugby and just get rid of helmets
I've been saying for a few years that the future should be soft pads(like a suped up Nike pro combat undershirt type thing) and soft helmets similar to wrestling/boxing headgear
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:44 am to St Augustine
Helmets give the illusion they are safer. Get rid of them and the heads won't contact as much.
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