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SEC and Big East tied for #1 in current bowl standings
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:36 pm
I've been doing this for about 10 years.
a = number of bowl teams
b = number of bowl wins
c = number of teams in your conference
Rating = (a+b)/c
As of 1/3:
Conf | bowl teams | wins | Rating
Big East 8 6 4 1.250
Southeastern 12 10 5 1.250
Mountain West 9 5 4 1.000
Big XII 12 8 4 1.000
Big Ten 11 7 3 0.909
Pacific-10 10 7 2 0.900
Atlantic Coast 12 7 3 0.833
USA 12 6 2 0.667
Sun Belt 9 4 1 0.556
Western Athletic 9 4 1 0.556
Mid-American 13 5 0 0.385
Add the BCSCG victory, and it's dominance by the SEC yet again.
a = number of bowl teams
b = number of bowl wins
c = number of teams in your conference
Rating = (a+b)/c
As of 1/3:
Conf | bowl teams | wins | Rating
Big East 8 6 4 1.250
Southeastern 12 10 5 1.250
Mountain West 9 5 4 1.000
Big XII 12 8 4 1.000
Big Ten 11 7 3 0.909
Pacific-10 10 7 2 0.900
Atlantic Coast 12 7 3 0.833
USA 12 6 2 0.667
Sun Belt 9 4 1 0.556
Western Athletic 9 4 1 0.556
Mid-American 13 5 0 0.385
Add the BCSCG victory, and it's dominance by the SEC yet again.
This post was edited on 1/3/10 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:38 pm to xiv
quote:
Yet again, dominance by the SEC. They haven't taken the field
There is a reason for this.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:40 pm to dukke v
quote:Your subtlety and wit has gone over my head. Would you care to explain exactly what it is that you mean, kind sir?
There is a reason for this.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:41 pm to xiv
so for the SEC what number does C equal?
confused as to how the numerator is higher than the denominator right now.
confused as to how the numerator is higher than the denominator right now.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:45 pm to xiv
quote:
Your subtlety and wit has gone over my head. Would you care to explain exactly what it is that you mean, kind sir?
YOUR numbers are great. But I look at was is on the Field. You should try it.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:50 pm to dukke v
quote:
But I look at was is on the Field
quote:easier said that done Peeej
You should try it.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:51 pm to xiv
I always thought it would be better to handicap the games by looking at the balance between the teams playing (ie SEC 1 vs Big12 1 in the NCG, SEC 3 vs Pac10 3 in the Cap1, etc)
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:52 pm to el tigre
quote:SEC's "C" = 12
so for the SEC what number does C equal?
confused as to how the numerator is higher than the denominator right now.
Bowl teams = 10
Bowl wins = 0
# of teams = 12
10/12 = .833
If the SEC wins say, 6, then:
Bowl teams = 10
Bowl wins = 6
# of teams = 12
16/12 = 1.333
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:52 pm to dukke v
quote:Oh, I do. In fact, what happened on the field is the exact reason that the SEC has 10 bowl teams.
YOUR numbers are great. But I look at was is on the Field. You should try it.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:55 pm to xiv
problem with that is before the season even starts,, the conferences are locked into certain bowl game ( provided enough wins) that exclude lesser conferences from the opportunity
ie: the 10 ranked SEC,Big 12 team isn't necessarily better than the 6 th ranked C-USA,MAC team
but they have a chance to win a bowl game cause of conference lock ins
ie: the 10 ranked SEC,Big 12 team isn't necessarily better than the 6 th ranked C-USA,MAC team
but they have a chance to win a bowl game cause of conference lock ins
This post was edited on 12/27/09 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:55 pm to xiv
gotcha....thought you were saying the SEC was at 1.333 right now.
also, is it possible to add a component for quality of opponents? the SEC plays even or up against other conferences relative to finish in conference standings in most of our matchups.
also, is it possible to add a component for quality of opponents? the SEC plays even or up against other conferences relative to finish in conference standings in most of our matchups.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:55 pm to xiv
quote:
If they go 5-5, that will be enough to give them the best performance in the bowl season of any conference.
So if the SEC beats:
Northwestern
Texas A & M
East Carolina
Clemson
Connecticut
and loses to:
Texas
Cincy
Penn State
Va. Tech
Oklahoma State
They would be the best. Nice little system you got there.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:57 pm to OWLFAN86
quote:
But I look at was is on the Field
quote:
You should try it.
easier said that done Peeej
This depends on how you look ata game.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 12:59 pm to BBATiger
quote:Yep, because you won't find another conference who had more bowl teams or bowl wins.
So if the SEC beats:
Northwestern
Texas A & M
East Carolina
Clemson
Connecticut
and loses to:
Texas
Cincy
Penn State
Va. Tech
Oklahoma State
They would be the best. Nice little system you got there.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 1:00 pm to xiv
Should have a SOS factor added to number of wins rather than number of bowl teams. The number of total bowl teams is too variable based on how bad the OOC schedules are, number of conference games, and number of tie ins
It's easier to have a conference get a bunch of bowl teams if OOC strength of schedule is weak
It's easier to have a conference get a bunch of bowl teams if OOC strength of schedule is weak
This post was edited on 12/27/09 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 12/27/09 at 1:00 pm to xiv
quote:but One could argue those 7-10 seeded SEC teams arent as deserving as other smaller comference teams,, the bowl lock in system is unfair
Yep, because you won't find another conference who had more bowl teams or bowl wins.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 1:01 pm to usc6158
quote:agreed
The number of total bowl teams is too variable based on how bad the OOC schedules are, number of conference games, and number of tie ins
It's easier to have a conference get a bunch of bowl teams if OOC strength of schedule is weak
Posted on 12/27/09 at 1:04 pm to xiv
quote:
Yep, because you won't find another conference who had more bowl teams or bowl wins.
WOW!! You just DON'T GET IT DO YA!!! There is a REASON the SEC is where its at. If they lose the TOP TIER Bowls it is not good. SO the SEC would be DOWN in the MAJOR BOWLS!! Come on man. I think YOU try to outthink yurself with numbers.
Posted on 12/27/09 at 1:05 pm to dukke v
quote:Then make your own system and show us.
dukke v
Quit being so combative over something that isn't a big deal. It makes you look insecure.
My point here is that it is generally better to go 4-4 in bowls than 3-0.
This post was edited on 12/27/09 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 12/27/09 at 1:09 pm to xiv
quote:
Then make your own system and show us.
WHY SHOULD I????
quote:
Quit being so combative over something that isn't a big deal
If its NOT a BIG DEAL, why bring it up????
quote:
It makes you look insecure.
You are the insecure one here.
quote:
My point here is that it is generally better to go 4-4 in bowls than 3-0.
If the SEC had ONLY three Bowl teams the world would come to an end.
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